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Originally posted by krossfyter
under 2000 ? you would have to go used and really look around.

that's what i will probably do... just have to find some time to look around town... if you guys have any suggestions for vehicles that are affordable (like makes/models) please go ahead and let me know... even if they aren't in my price range!
 
Originally posted by krossfyter
okay. look in the local classifieds...that usually helps some. try.... www.carsforsale.com. .. thats a cool place to go check out even if you are not looking.

hmmm... not the most omniweb-friendly web site:

"This version of the Internet Explorer Browser is not supported.

Please download the latest version of the browser and visit us again."

hehehe... luckily normal ie works!

thanks for the link
 
My car is a 1959 Porsche 356A 1600N Cabriolet

Simple design, well engineered, far from fast, and still running, very much like my Mac Plus

My computer which I use is a G4 QS 733/1.5GB/1TB, well engineered, pretty fast, but not screaming, and not too expensive...

Very much like the other car I want:
1988 BMW M5
 
Originally posted by kishba
hmm i'm in the market for my first car (i'm 17)... i need something nice, but cheap (under 2k) so i can still afford a new mac for college

any suggestions?

Everyone should own a VW Beetle (the original) once in their lives. This car will teach you alot:

About economy
About design
About engineering
About practicality
About ease of use/repair
About the beauty of simplicity

You can find a nice one (maybe with a sunroof) for $2000. AVOID RUST. You can repair anything with the car's own tool roll. You can pull the motor almost as fast as a PCI card. You can keep them running on change found in couches, and you can drive them coast to coast (regardless of which continent you inhabit).

Spending a year with a beetle will change the way you look at cars for the rest of your life (in a good way).
 
I own a 98 Toyota camry CE (5spd, 4cyl) with a white apple logo sticker over the rear third taillight. I hope to own an S2000 one day. I love little roadsters. (but only ones that dont look like *****es)

Also on my list to buy is a Honda Shadow or Magna motorcycle. I've had my permit for about a year, and now I just have to get my license.

-Pete

btw...I only drive manual transmission cars.
 
I have a pair of Quicksilvers (dual 800 and an 867) as well as an iMac 800.. none of which seem much like any of my vehicles.. Geo Prizm, Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo, and a BMW K75 motorcycle.

As for the youngster that suggested a bicycle and a bus pass were all anyone needed, I suggest he ride his bike the 30 miles each way to and from work in 10 degree weather in the winter, and 90 degree weather in the summer.. with a pair of notebook computers and 40 pounds of tools. There's a fair chance he might actually survive the summer... but I'd put my money on finding him dead on the roadside in the winter. I'm glad he lives in an area that has adequate public transportation... but that isn't where most of the country lives.
 
Originally posted by Nipsy


Everyone should own a VW Beetle (the original) once in their lives. This car will teach you alot:

About economy
About design
About engineering
About practicality
About ease of use/repair
About the beauty of simplicity

You can find a nice one (maybe with a sunroof) for $2000. AVOID RUST. You can repair anything with the car's own tool roll. You can pull the motor almost as fast as a PCI card. You can keep them running on change found in couches, and you can drive them coast to coast (regardless of which continent you inhabit).

Spending a year with a beetle will change the way you look at cars for the rest of your life (in a good way).

Oh, how I do wish that this were true... I have very fond memories of my Beetle.. but intellectually I know I am deluding myself. This is *my* take on the Beetle:

They're heinously overpriced now... they're trendy again, and priced like it.
They're hideously impractical in cold weather. Air cooled engines SOUND like a nifty idea... until you need the heater and the defrost.
They *are* easy to repair.. which is great.. and more importantly, they are FUN to work on.
In short: If you live in a temperate area of the world, and you can get one cheap enough, they're fun. I would never have one as my only car, though. Not on a dare.
 
Originally posted by IndyGopher
I have a pair of Quicksilvers (dual 800 and an 867) as well as an iMac 800.. none of which seem much like any of my vehicles.. Geo Prizm, Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo, and a BMW K75 motorcycle.

As for the youngster that suggested a bicycle and a bus pass were all anyone needed, I suggest he ride his bike the 30 miles each way to and from work in 10 degree weather in the winter, and 90 degree weather in the summer.. with a pair of notebook computers and 40 pounds of tools. There's a fair chance he might actually survive the summer... but I'd put my money on finding him dead on the roadside in the winter. I'm glad he lives in an area that has adequate public transportation... but that isn't where most of the country lives.

or in san francisco, trying having a car, where there is no place to park, and when i found a place to park it was right in the middle of a gun battle, and you can literally get around with the subway and bicycle much faster and safer than with a car

there are people who make ridiculous amounts of money...mbas, lawyers, other pros, who use bikes, buses, and subways because flashing a half decent car anywhere near the finacial district is a great way to get it stolen

i think san franciso is number 2 in car theft next to new york...and remember gone in 60 seconds...the pros in the soma and tenderloin in san francisco can be off with your new car before your can even take a piss

and san franciscans make more than anybody, except for nyc again, because if they do have a car (which is stupid), they need to pay a king's ransom to park it safely

where i went to golden gate univ. in the foul soma district of sf, i used to park across the street and when class was out, i hired a taxi to pick me up because i, a martial artist, was scared ****eless (i don't believe in guns and after hours of pounding numbers and spreadsheets, i don't think i would have good aim in the dark...i would probably shoot me own foots:D
 
i know it snows where you are indy gopher, but san franciso does not snow...maybe bullets sometimes

hey, where is michael douglas when you need him (stupid reference to 'streets of san francisco'...where they showed lots of guns and high speed chases...now sf is not that dangerous but i prefer to have a car and live in the rural burbs south of san jose)
 
Originally posted by IndyGopher


Oh, how I do wish that this were true... I have very fond memories of my Beetle.. but intellectually I know I am deluding myself. This is *my* take on the Beetle:

They're heinously overpriced now... they're trendy again, and priced like it.
They're hideously impractical in cold weather. Air cooled engines SOUND like a nifty idea... until you need the heater and the defrost.
They *are* easy to repair.. which is great.. and more importantly, they are FUN to work on.
In short: If you live in a temperate area of the world, and you can get one cheap enough, they're fun. I would never have one as my only car, though. Not on a dare.

I know what you mean about the heater boxes, but more often that is beacause people have taken them apart so often they don't seal well. If you make sure the tubes and boxes are sealed EVERYWHERE, they can pump some heat!

Also, a good thing to remember is that no-one ever cracked a block in cold weather (by using water in lieu of anti-freeze) in an air cooled car!

You gotta remember that your perspective sounds a bit seasoned (I too would no longer own only a Beetle), but for someone looking for a good first car, on the cheap, I stand by my recommendation!
 
Originally posted by IndyGopher
As for the youngster that suggested a bicycle and a bus pass were all anyone needed, I suggest he ride his bike the 30 miles each way to and from work in 10 degree weather in the winter, and 90 degree weather in the summer.. with a pair of notebook computers and 40 pounds of tools. There's a fair chance he might actually survive the summer... but I'd put my money on finding him dead on the roadside in the winter. I'm glad he lives in an area that has adequate public transportation... but that isn't where most of the country lives.
What the hell, gramps? I do that all the time. Uphill, both ways, and barefoot, might I add! And I have the gaping infected pus-leaking sores in my feet from my steel pedals to prove it. You forgot to mention the snow, as well - at least it helps to numb the pain. Except I'll admit I don't carry any tools - only dead animal carcasses and coonskins for me.

Alex
 
re: San Francisco

I know exactly what u are talking about jef...

When I was there last October...I kept thinking how much of a royal pain in the @ss it would be to have a car there. For me, though, it was more about the steep hills and the stress your transmission & brakes must go through to go up and down all the time while in the city.

what really blew my mind was the street which had steps to go up the sidewalk...I just can't remember the name of it...but I have pictures of me going up it!! :p
 
umm

Okay, I told RJ about this thread, and he wanted to give his two cents: His perfect combination would be the Twentieth Anniversary Mac, and the Pope-mobile. And i don't think he's kidding...

pnw
 
the original beetles

my first car was a 71 bug convertible. its easy to romanticize it now but man i was glad to sell it. it was hotter than the depths of hell in the summer( texas in july). it originally had a/c but lots of luck getting above 45mph with it on. at least it didn't vapor lock every summer like my 911s did. if you left the top down in the sun the seat would scald the shinola out of you. it always leaked oil-marked it's territory like a dog on a walk...the floorboard rusted thru because the top leaked and during the winter my hair( wet because i overslept) would get frost on it as i drove to high school. BUT the girls thought it was cute so i wasn't a total loser. i couldn't even compare it to a mac- it was more like my atari megaST 4. its a coin toss as to which one was slower.

after a slew of exotics that almost put me in the poor house i bought an isuzu trooper in 1990 and i think, barring something outside of my control, it'll be my last car. its totally no-frills, extremely reliable, will climb a cliff in 4 wheel low, and i don't worry about door dings, shopping carts or what i haul inside it. i'd compare it to my trusty beige G3 running os8.1( yes, 8.1!). it NEVER crashes and always gets the job done. alas it will be gone if something comes out at mwny.
p.s. i'd love a good deal on a nissan figaro (purple, thank you):)
 
I wanted a Audi TT, you can get left hookers in the UK for about £14k now.... but without the p*ssy modification that induces the car to understeer rather than oversteer......

But have you ever seen the insurance quote for a 24 year old on this 225 BHP 4WD beauty??? It bears more than a striking resemblance to my phone number.....

If the TiBook was a car, it'd be the Audi TT......

If I had the cash, and insurance was no problem, I'd have a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 7 GSR, it's such a cool car..... I would then proceed to spend my days taking the piss out of Ferraris, Porsches and anything else that wanted a damn good spanking!!! :p

I used to have an original Beetle, what a great car, especially it's ability to accelerate on snow...... truely mental....... however it's lack of braking and turning ability in snow was also abit questionable when I encountered a slight problem with the position of lamp post........
 
Originally posted by Nipsy


Everyone should own a VW Beetle (the original) once in their lives.

My first car was the VW Thing. Everything you like about the Beetle was present to an even greater degree in that car.

Right now I drive either a Chrysler Cirrus, a Dodge Durango 4wd, a Bianchi road bike, or my Harley Lowrider Custom. If I'm not riding, I'm running or swimming.

I'm rooting for Steve Larson at Kona!
 
I have a triple black 2001 Camaro SS 325 hp this baby screams....just like my 550 tibook. I am in the market for the new vette...I love that car.
 
Originally posted by iGAV
I wanted a Audi TT, you can get left hookers in the UK for about £14k now.... but without the p*ssy modification that induces the car to understeer rather than oversteer......

But have you ever seen the insurance quote for a 24 year old on this 225 BHP 4WD beauty??? It bears more than a striking resemblance to my phone number.....

If the TiBook was a car, it'd be the Audi TT......

If I had the cash, and insurance was no problem, I'd have a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 7 GSR, it's such a cool car..... I would then proceed to spend my days taking the piss out of Ferraris, Porsches and anything else that wanted a damn good spanking!!! :p

I used to have an original Beetle, what a great car, especially it's ability to accelerate on snow...... truely mental....... however it's lack of braking and turning ability in snow was also abit questionable when I encountered a slight problem with the position of lamp post........


audi tt and tibook...i once mentioned that to my wife
 
audi tt and tibook...i once mentioned that to my wife

She obviously made you choose then..:p

OK.... Taking bets....

Did the boy jefhatfield choose the sleek and slinky audi tt vroom vroom
or
Did the boy jefhatfield choose the smooth and sassy apple tibook.....


PLACE U'R BETS NOW............

sleek and slinky audi tt....
smooth and sassy apple tibook
sleek and slinky audi tt....
smooth and sassy apple tibook

BETTING FINISHED........

u bet sleek and slinky audi tt....
U WONG........

u bet sleek and slinky audi tt....
U .......... U........ U WITE......

BONSAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! heheh :p
 
how i love the tt

being a recovering car-a-holic , i have warned my wife that a sudden infusion of capital ( lotto, inheritence or god forbid-hard work) could pitch me into a relapse of untold magnitude.

camera pans over a lush open field to an immense greene and greene inspired craftsman structure:

and in my newly built-multi-level garage would be a spanking new tt, next to my shelby ac cobra, next to an empty space for my new ford gt40, which is next to my toyota fj55( lovingly restored to level three by TLC, van nuys, ca.), next to my 300sl gullwing aluminum racing edition, next to my RR flying spur, next to my 1954 vette( which has a dead mint lake placid blue 1954 stratocaster in the trunk), which is next to my new custom built twin-turbo porsche( not sure if it's by ruff or b&b)

and thats just one row of the first of three floors......

cue david wilcox singing " my old addiction- Chet Baker's theme"

fade to black
 
2002 Black Ford Ranger XLT Off-Road 4x4 SuperCab 4 door. 4 Litre V6, 5 speed automatic trans. with 207hp and more torque then you know what to do with.

2002 Luxury blue Harley-Davidson Softail Standard, 88ci twin cam with counter-balancing. Vance and Hines Big Shot exhaust pipes, Screaming Eagle air filter, HD saddlebags (large leather ;) ), and a windshield (with quick disconnect mount).

Both are sweet and have plenty o power (truck can pull almost 6000 pounds on a hitch, and carry about 1600 in the bed).

I equate the Harley to Apple systems. It may not be the fastest one out there, but you get there in style and comfort :D. Fit and finish on Harleys are the standards that the rest aspire to. Also, because I don't go ripping down the highway on/in either vehicle, I don't get pulled over for speeding, and then get there sooner :D .

I have decided that all my vehicles from now on will be American (in name if nothing else, except that I know HD's are made here).
 
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