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TraceyS/FL

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Oh ye gads, I hate dealing with Video stuff.

But alas, i have a Math DVD i need to put onto the computer so my DD doesn't need to insert the disk daily to watch it.

That is all i want to do - make it play from the hard drive!

I don't DO video - i normally just have my parents the Video guru's do it - they can't help in this case.....so most of the video stuff goes right over my head. :confused:

So will either work? 1 better than the other? Both?

Thanks for any advice - back to school planning -
Tracey
 
Mactheripper will create a Video_Ts file which can easily be played within DVD player.

Pros- Quick to rip the dvd, best quality
Cons- Takes up lots of space, doesn't have the quick double click to open

Handbrake will convert the DVD to a.mov or .mp4 which can be played in quicktime.

Pros- Can quickly open it, takes up less space on your harddrive, can be put into iTunes etc. Can double click to open.
Cons- Takes a long time to encode the dvd, depending on the settings slight-lots of loss in quality.

You can use both i.e use MTR to rip the DVD then handbrake to convert it but if you are just converting the one video then i would just stick with either MTR or handbrake. Of course if you decide to go the MTR route you can always encode the results Video_TS file in Handbrake later on or to compare how well either setup works for you.
 
MacTheRipper if you have lots of hard disk space and need the chapters in the dvd. It will play through VLC (maybe other apps, Im not sure).

Handbrake if you don't need chapters and want to save some disk space space. It plays through Quicktime.
 
OK, when i put the DVD in the drive - i already have a Video_TS folder sitting there, i copied it to the computer and nothing worked. Not that i knew what the HECK i was doing though. LOL!

I do need the chapters - it's her daily/weekly Math lessons, so that is important to keep. But smaller would be nice too (they are down to 8gb free on the computer).

Gee, maybe i'll just have the 'rents make a copy of the disk for a back-up and i'll just do that. Video is like brain surgery to me! (really, i feel completely and totally LOST when i encounter it - give me stills and Aperture any day!).

Thanks - i'll play with both later I guess, the weather stinks right now - i'm not sure i should be online!

Tracey
 
OK, so now i see in DVD player i can pick the video_ts folder to open to play - gee, didn't think to try THAT yesterday.

Back to that computer - i'm making this harder than i think it needs to be huh???? :D

Thanks for taking pity on me -
tracey
 
OK, when i put the DVD in the drive - i already have a Video_TS folder sitting there, i copied it to the computer and nothing worked. Not that i knew what the HECK i was doing though. LOL!

I do need the chapters - it's her daily/weekly Math lessons, so that is important to keep. But smaller would be nice too (they are down to 8gb free on the computer).

Gee, maybe i'll just have the 'rents make a copy of the disk for a back-up and i'll just do that. Video is like brain surgery to me! (really, i feel completely and totally LOST when i encounter it - give me stills and Aperture any day!).

Thanks - i'll play with both later I guess, the weather stinks right now - i'm not sure i should be online!

Tracey


You don't need to copy the Visdeo_TS file. just load the DVD and let the software do its thing.
 
You don't need to copy the Visdeo_TS file. just load the DVD and let the software do its thing.

Did you read the OP question, they are trying to get around having to use the DVD.


If you just dragged the Video_Ts from the DVD to the desktop then it almost certaintly won't work. However to open up a Video_TS folder, you have to open DVD player first, then File - Open DVD Media - Then navigte to the Video_Ts folder. Then click open then play.

A DVD can quite easily fill up 8gb when ripped as a video_Ts folder. Down converting with handbrake you can make it as small as 1 gb without too bad a loss in quality. However you do loss the chapters, but this can be circumvented (if you don't mind putting the time and effort in) See Quicktime help exert below

Quicktime Help said:
Creating a Chapter List for a Movie
With QuickTime Pro, you can create a pop-up chapter list to navigate to specific points in a movie. First you create a list of topics (or entry points), and then you import the list into the movie as a text track. When you play the movie in QuickTime Player, the current chapter displays in the movie controller. (See Opening and Playing Movies in QuickTime Player.)

To create a chapter list:
In a text editor or word processor, type your list of chapters and save the document as plain text.
Make each item very short (preferably one word but no more than two or three words) and separate each item with a carriage return.

In QuickTime Player, choose File > Open File, select the text file, and click Open.
Choose File > Export. In the Export pop-up menu, choose "Text to Text." In the Use pop-up menu, choose "Text with Descriptors."
Click Options. In the Text Export Settings dialog, select "Show Text, Descriptors, and Time"; select "Show time relative to start of Movie"; and set fractions of seconds to 1/30 (the default is 1/1000).
Click OK, then click Save to create a text file with descriptors.
Open the exported list in your text editor or word processor, and open the target movie in QuickTime Player.
Choose Window > Show Movie Info.
In QuickTime Player, drag the playhead on the timeline to find the first point in the movie where you want to begin a new chapter.
Use the Right and Left Arrow keys to step forward or backward a frame at a time as needed. Note the current time in the Properties window.

In the text file, find the first chapter title and change the timestamp just before that chapter title to the time you noted in the Properties window.
The timestamp might now read, for example, [00:01:30.15], meaning that selecting the first chapter title will jump the viewer 1 minute, 30 seconds, and 15 frames into the movie.

Repeat steps 9 through 11 until you've identified all the places in the movie that correspond to the chapter divisions and you've entered the proper timestamps in the text file.
Change the last timestamp (the one after the last chapter title in the text file) to match the duration of the movie.
Save the text file and import it into QuickTime Player.
QuickTime creates a new movie with just a text track.

Choose Edit > Select All, choose Edit > Copy, and close the movie.
Click in the main movie, choose Edit > Select All, then choose Edit > "Add to Movie."
QuickTime adds the text track to the movie.

Choose Window > Show Movie Properties.
In the Properties window, select the video or audio track you want to associate with the chapter track, and click Other Settings.
Choose the main video or audio track from the Chapters pop-up menu.
If you have a movie with alternate subtitle or sound tracks, you can create multiple chapter lists in different languages and set the appropriate subtitle or sound track as the owner of each chapter list. The chapter list will change to match the selected language.

Select the text track, then select "Preload this track" (to make the chapter track load first).
Deselect the new text track so that it doesn't display on top of the video.
The new track will still function as a chapter track.

Save the movie as a self-contained movie.
You can now choose a chapter title from the pop-up menu to the right of the timeline.
 
OK, that was easy - it's working!!! (after i figured out that the 11yo had headphones plugged in mucking up my sound. twerp.).

Gee, that was the easiest thing i'll do all week i think!

Tracey
 
A DVD can quite easily fill up 8gb when ripped as a video_Ts folder. Down converting with handbrake you can make it as small as 1 gb without too bad a loss in quality. However you do loss the chapters, but this can be circumvented (if you don't mind putting the time and effort in) See Quicktime help exert below

Thanks - i'll probably give this a whril next week. I solved the immediate issue of not having to have the DVD in there, so i'm good for tomorrows lesson.

Maybe i'll get G-Pa and his MacPro on the task :D

Thanks again -
Tracey..... video paranoid!
 
Glad you got it working, curious what route did you use?

I've never made chapters in Quicktime and wondered how well it works, if you went with that route.
 
Glad you got it working, curious what route did you use?

I've never made chapters in Quicktime and wondered how well it works, if you went with that route.

LOL - the easy route so far, just copied the Video_TS and opened it in DVD player (after i gave her DVD player to use - she runs Simple Finder).

I will try the chapter thing next week though, i'd like smaller!
 
It's now called Handbrake again.

@TraceyS/FL

There is a new version of Handbrake out today that actually supports chapter exporting. The limitation of this is that it doesn't work in Quicktime but works in iTunes (weird). Just letting you know there is another option now.
 
I prefer handbrake if you just want the movie and not all the other stuff, making it a smaller file from handbrake. Mactheripper is nice too so its really up to you.
 
New version of HandBrake released

New version of HandBrake released today.

Handbrake 0.8.5b1 is available now: http://handbrake.m0k.org/

" This new version of HandBrake encompasses everything that was in MediaFork 0.8.0b1 and much, much, much more... The complete change set is available and well worth a read (PDF), but here's a summary for the impatient:

User presets (Mac)
AppleTV and PS3 support
Anamorphic, even in QuickTime
Surround sound (both AAC 5.1 and Dolby Pro Logic II)
Chapter markers (QuickTime-style)
Official support for the Windows GUI
PPC Linux support
High profile H.264
A number of bugs have been fixed as well, including the restoration of multiple audio tracks. Still, keep in mind that this is a beta, and no particular level of stability or usability is guaranteed; don't delete your copy of HandBrake 0.7.1 just yet."
 
I prefer handbrake if you just want the movie and not all the other stuff, making it a smaller file from handbrake. Mactheripper is nice too so its really up to you.

Have you read the thread? This issue has already been discussed many time and been solved.

New version of HandBrake released today.

Again look 2 posts up, already stated, and as the OP has said many times they do not really know anything about video encoding so providing all of the new features was a little wasteful.

I reported back to this thread because I knew what the OP problem was and that the new Handbrake might have an alternative solution to something suggested previously. I want the OP to know this information. I don't want the thread to go off on a tangent because the real information will easily get hidden but please read the thread before posting.
 
@TraceyS/FL

I have found a couple of programs on versiontracker that look as if they take away the pain of creating the chapters in Quicktime.

Freeware: Metadata Hootenanny

And

Shareware: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/31268

I've tried both of these applications and have managed to produce a quicktime movie with chapters. They are basically a fancy front end for doing the manual work but thought i'd put this out there for you.
 
THanks! I had a horrid week with health insurance and never got back to this.

And I have to laugh - i do know about NOTHING about video, lol, but i have not 30 feet from me sitting a MacPro with Final Cut Studio on it - just don't make me USE it, that is what parents are for! :D My Dad is the one that gave me my first camera - I clicked with film and not video editing.... maybe because a darkroom smells good???? :p

I'll put this on my schedule for tomorrow. Thanks for the updates!
 
Hope you got everything sorted out with health insurance

Feel free to ask any questions you may have, if you want you can PM me and I will be more than happy to help.
 
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