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MacWorld San Francisco Xserve, LCD, PowerMac Updates?
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You need more memory! Don't say the iApps are slow if you're only running 256 MB... Put at least 512 in there then tell me if it's still slow. I have a 1.25 Ghz 15" AlBook with 1GB of RAM, and all the iApps are very fast.
Re: Shooting themselves in the foot (again)...
well... maybe not, considering the buggy releases lately, it might not be such a great idea to release a NEW product that will be in the hands of so many switchers in its first revision. Release it after Christmas, and you miss the holiday buying, but you get to revise and establish the product a few times before it's on everybody's list for next year.
P.S. - I understand that .0 releases are inevitably buggy, this is not a complaint, but most average computer users won't be particularly forgiving.
well... maybe not, considering the buggy releases lately, it might not be such a great idea to release a NEW product that will be in the hands of so many switchers in its first revision. Release it after Christmas, and you miss the holiday buying, but you get to revise and establish the product a few times before it's on everybody's list for next year.
P.S. - I understand that .0 releases are inevitably buggy, this is not a complaint, but most average computer users won't be particularly forgiving.
I have a feeling that we won't see 2.5ghz G5s, I think like a 2.33 or something, but I think that the 2.5 isn't stable enough. I bet we'll see 2.5 in april, and then 3ghz in late July/August
Horse Hockey !!
That's complete nonsense.
IBM/Dell/HP et al. are putting 3.2 GHz dual CPU Xeons in 1U boxes (e.g. http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantdl360/index.html) A 3 GHz Xeon generates much more heat than a 2 GHz G5....
IBM is putting two 3.2 GHz Xeons in a 0.5U blade (see http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/s...Id=2575417&storeId=1&catalogId=-840&langId=-1), and is putting two 1.6 GHz PPC970 chips in the same form factor 0.5U Blade (http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/bladecenter/js20/more_info.html)
Rackmount systems are intended for computer rooms - it doesn't matter if the fans make a bit of noise.
The large fans on the Powermac G5 are there for quietness - not because it generates a huge amount of heat!
That's complete nonsense.
IBM/Dell/HP et al. are putting 3.2 GHz dual CPU Xeons in 1U boxes (e.g. http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantdl360/index.html) A 3 GHz Xeon generates much more heat than a 2 GHz G5....
IBM is putting two 3.2 GHz Xeons in a 0.5U blade (see http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/s...Id=2575417&storeId=1&catalogId=-840&langId=-1), and is putting two 1.6 GHz PPC970 chips in the same form factor 0.5U Blade (http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/bladecenter/js20/more_info.html)
Rackmount systems are intended for computer rooms - it doesn't matter if the fans make a bit of noise.
The large fans on the Powermac G5 are there for quietness - not because it generates a huge amount of heat!
all right my guess . . .
This is just my hypothesis on what will be released:
1: Power Mac G5 updates (gotta hit the 3.0 soon)
2. 20th anniversary mac (BRING BACK THE CUBE!)
3. Update the iLife apps
4. The new office suite (let's get Microsoft's teeth out of Mac forever!)
As much as I expect the X-serves and LCDs to be upgraded soon I'm not sure if they seem like MWSF products, or the X-Serve doesn't. I think the X-serve will be a Feb. release and the LCDs have 50/50 chance of seeing the light of day at MWSF, if not, Feb with the X-Serves.
Well, yeah . . .this seems like the most logical products to me. Although that mac powered rocket ship would be cool . . .
This is just my hypothesis on what will be released:
1: Power Mac G5 updates (gotta hit the 3.0 soon)
2. 20th anniversary mac (BRING BACK THE CUBE!)
3. Update the iLife apps
4. The new office suite (let's get Microsoft's teeth out of Mac forever!)
As much as I expect the X-serves and LCDs to be upgraded soon I'm not sure if they seem like MWSF products, or the X-Serve doesn't. I think the X-serve will be a Feb. release and the LCDs have 50/50 chance of seeing the light of day at MWSF, if not, Feb with the X-Serves.
Well, yeah . . .this seems like the most logical products to me. Although that mac powered rocket ship would be cool . . .
I know this will help but my point is, why should iMovie and iPhoto be slower than Final Cut Express and Photoshop Elements with the same amount of RAM?
I'm just waiting for the 512MB RAM module at crucial to drop below its current £79 and I'll be there.
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I have over 512 MB of RAM and iPhoto is still a dog with over 1200 photos and counting. This app needs to be reworked to handle large libraries better.
Re: Re: Re: Interesting quote I found
Have you ever bought a can of Coke or Pepsi? Or eaten in a restaurant? Then you are paying A LOT more than 3X cost. Adding ~65% to cost is not a shady practice.
Have you ever bought a can of Coke or Pepsi? Or eaten in a restaurant? Then you are paying A LOT more than 3X cost. Adding ~65% to cost is not a shady practice.
Originally posted by Awimoway
Well at least we didn't waste any time making a list of things no MWSF could ever live up to, thus ensuring our utter disappointment when the day arrives. You only left out iWalk, G5 PowerBooks, and Mac-powered rocketships to the next lunar exploration.
First, everything I've talked about have been rumored or actually leaked out of Apple. It's been in a many mags and many websites.
Will they all appear at the showing maybe not. Will they happen this yr? I would say yes.
Will I be disappointed like most of you think? No, because I only want to see a good event. Nothing more and nothing less.
Good, Better, Best MWSF
I feel like speculating, so here is my good, better, best (best would be awesome, but is least likely to happen =p)
Good
PowerMac G5 speed bump, new systems are:
Dual 1.8/512MB/200GB/64MB Radeon 9600
Dual 2.2/1GB/250GB/64MB Radeon 9600
Dual 2.5/1GB/250GB/128MB Radeon 9800
BTO 256MB Radeon 9800, all systems with PCI-X motherboards.
G5 Xserve, 1U config, 1x or 2x 2.2Ghz G5s, 4 independent SATA disk controllers with 250+GB SATA drives. 1AGP/PCI and 2 PCI-X slots
Price drop current LCDs.
Better
G5 Xserve is 1x or 2x 2.5Ghz G5s
3U Xserve Blade edition. Lots of redundancies, etc. Dunno how many blades would be practical for a 3U box, but I can see each blade as single/dual 1.6 G5s (it's a blade server, want more power, put in another blade dammit =p).
G5 iMac. Same monitor sizes as now, but with 1.6 & 1.8Ghz G5s, nVidia GeForce FX 5200 Ultra video, and 120 GB HD.
New LCDs.
iPod $50 cut across the board.
Best
Reborn Cube, 2.0 Ghz G5, 64MB Radeon 9600 video, 160 SATA HD, couple hundred less than low-end PowerMac G5.
20th Anniversary Macintosh
2.5 Ghz G5, 2x250GB SATA HD, 256MB Radeon 9800 graphics, 2GB RAM standard (expandable up to 8GB). Comes with a special edition LCD, largest size Apple's offering. Wireless KB/Mouse, built in iSight. Bluetooth/Airport Extreme. 5.1 speaker system. Complimentary AppleCare. Only $7K =).
iPod $100 cut across the board. $149 5GB iPod in current form factor.
Best would certainly be a cool MWSF though I think =).
I feel like speculating, so here is my good, better, best (best would be awesome, but is least likely to happen =p)
Good
PowerMac G5 speed bump, new systems are:
Dual 1.8/512MB/200GB/64MB Radeon 9600
Dual 2.2/1GB/250GB/64MB Radeon 9600
Dual 2.5/1GB/250GB/128MB Radeon 9800
BTO 256MB Radeon 9800, all systems with PCI-X motherboards.
G5 Xserve, 1U config, 1x or 2x 2.2Ghz G5s, 4 independent SATA disk controllers with 250+GB SATA drives. 1AGP/PCI and 2 PCI-X slots
Price drop current LCDs.
Better
G5 Xserve is 1x or 2x 2.5Ghz G5s
3U Xserve Blade edition. Lots of redundancies, etc. Dunno how many blades would be practical for a 3U box, but I can see each blade as single/dual 1.6 G5s (it's a blade server, want more power, put in another blade dammit =p).
G5 iMac. Same monitor sizes as now, but with 1.6 & 1.8Ghz G5s, nVidia GeForce FX 5200 Ultra video, and 120 GB HD.
New LCDs.
iPod $50 cut across the board.
Best
Reborn Cube, 2.0 Ghz G5, 64MB Radeon 9600 video, 160 SATA HD, couple hundred less than low-end PowerMac G5.
20th Anniversary Macintosh
2.5 Ghz G5, 2x250GB SATA HD, 256MB Radeon 9800 graphics, 2GB RAM standard (expandable up to 8GB). Comes with a special edition LCD, largest size Apple's offering. Wireless KB/Mouse, built in iSight. Bluetooth/Airport Extreme. 5.1 speaker system. Complimentary AppleCare. Only $7K =).
iPod $100 cut across the board. $149 5GB iPod in current form factor.
Best would certainly be a cool MWSF though I think =).
what is the point of metioning the cube at the end of the article? it's f#@king dead! not that i don't love the cube, but forget about it.
You obviously haven't been reading MacRumsors enough.
There have been plenty of rumors as of late about Apple pulling a Phoenix with their cube form. I personally don't like it but hey. *shrugs* Never say never when it comes to Apple and Jobs freakish obsession with things.
I can't answer that with respect to iMovie and FCE. As for PE and iPhoto, they do different things. iPhoto is a browser too and it's probably the case that caching that much information about each image and the thumbnails was filling up a lot of RAM. PE doesn't need to do that normally.
Plus, iMovie and iPhoto are "free" (sort of) so I wouldn't expect the same polish and under-the-hood tinkering to squeeze out every ounce of speed. FCE and PE are stripped down versions of expensive software so it doesn't surprise me that their core functions are fast.
Free doesn't mean an app has to be cheap. Microsoft pulls this kind of crap all the time with crappy products like Movie Maker or MS Paint. The iLife apps are the cornerstone of the Mac. Every time you hear Mac users singing the praises of Apple its because of the OS X and iLife. (Or more specifically iTunes. Why should one app be so much better then the rest of them?) Its what makes a Mac a Mac right? I personally am a shutterbug and have close to 4,000 pictures adding about 30-100 pictures to my collection a month. If, more like when, I get a Mac I want that functionality that Mac is supposedly synonymous for. I know 3 Mac users. All three dont even bother with iPhoto. Whats the point of these apps if they arent going to be the best of breed? Again behavior I expect from Microsoft NOT Apple.
Apple can't afford to wait
Some people (a small minority to be sure) here have commented that Apple doesn't really need to upgrade their systems at MWSF (or thereabouts). Well, Intel is apparently releasing Prescott soon after (starting at 3.4GHz)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/34355.html
Apple needs to be delivering at least a 2.4GHz machine by that time to stay in the ballpark.
Some people (a small minority to be sure) here have commented that Apple doesn't really need to upgrade their systems at MWSF (or thereabouts). Well, Intel is apparently releasing Prescott soon after (starting at 3.4GHz)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/34355.html
Apple needs to be delivering at least a 2.4GHz machine by that time to stay in the ballpark.
Re: An expandable, available dual is needed - perhaps more than a quad
They should not have to. The 3U should be quad processor capable with options to start with one, two or four processors and increase as need be. Other server companies offer that as standard fare. I think Apple will have to do the same to compete in the enterprise space.
They should not have to. The 3U should be quad processor capable with options to start with one, two or four processors and increase as need be. Other server companies offer that as standard fare. I think Apple will have to do the same to compete in the enterprise space.
Well, it wouldn't surprise me if Apple were throttling the free iApps to make the pay-for applications appear to be worth the money; it wouldn't be the first time.
Anyone can start a rumor. We can't be sure everything will appear. Video iPod? Please.
Well, good. I just know that in my experience, no MWSF ever lives up to the unrealistic set of expectations we place on Apple. It gets old. I am not an apologist for Apple, but I'm even less of one for the fanboys who expect Apple to repeal the law of gravity andf make gold nuggets spew out of their G5 cheese graters. Hell, even if everything on your list is destined to happen, there wouldn't be time enough in the keynote to present all of it. Remember you originally said you "expect" all of these things at MWSF.