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If one has loads of AA rechargeable batteries and a rechargeable adapter (so he does not need to purchase), why would he choose to buy the latest generation Magic Mouse over the 1st generation version?
Does the 2nd gen have some special features that would make it more desirable to purchase over the 1st gen MMouse?
 
Thanks Erehy, i was wondering, apart from the battery think, aren't there any other differences in those two mouse generations?
 
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I have 4 AA rechargeable batteries, with 2300mAh capacity (which is huge). Might there be some application for OSX that can monitor the time of a mouses usage? That would be very helpfull so i can see how long they will last in usage.
 
I have both. Version 2 is more practical and comfort IMO due to you only need 1 cable to charge the mouse (and your other idevices as well).
 
why would he choose to buy the latest generation Magic Mouse over the 1st generation version?

OK - don't like/use the Magic Mouse myself but I've supported people who use it and I've occasionally seen problems with the battery clips in the original version losing their mojo. If you held a gun to my head and forced me to use a Magic Mouse I'd go for the latest gen and just shake my head wistfully while it was lying on its back uselessly during charging.

I know waiting 2 minutes while it fast charges and remembering to plug it in for a full charge when you're done isn't exactly the labours of Hercules - but plugging my Logitech MX in and continuing to use it while it gets a full charge is just. better. and that's supposed to be Apple's job.
 
Have had no problems with my MM2 and would recommend it. You are warned when the battery is low, and even at that point you get over an hour more usage in most cases. For me that's plenty enough time to take a break and allow some charge time. I use it less now that I have a Magic Trackpad as well - use the trackpad for general work and web browsing, and only use the MM2 for more precise control when using something like FCPX for instance.
 
Personally, I prefer the 1 as if you run out of power a set of batteries will last you a couple of months.

I'm just surprised that apple didn't include a kinetic charging method with the 2, would make is last a lot longer.
 
I'm just surprised that apple didn't include a kinetic charging method with the 2, would make is last a lot longer.
What is a kinetic charging method? Which mouse has that?
 
Kinetic charging is where there is a device that can generate power based on movement - kind of like they had in some watches - won't be able to charge to 100% so would still need power to charge, but could give a 20% increase of battery life - plus give the ability if you shook it while in laptop bag, and travelling the ability to charge a little bit.
 
Not yet - but wouldn't it be great to see it starting to find its way into devices? Laptops could charge while you walk, keyboards could charge with key-strokes and mice could charge with movement - just that one step further on the renewable energy path...
 
I have both... The MM2 besides never needing batteries, just works better on my system. There is a newer BT radio in the MM2 and in my case it works much better with BTLE installed in my cMP.

The MM1 seems laggy at times depending on usage, the MM2 is a much better device in MY OPINION.
 
I would not buy a MM2 on its own. I have one that came with my 2019 iMac, but I don't use it. The reason I would not buy it is that the battery is not replaceable, and unlike the Magic Keyboard/Trackapd you cannot use it wired once the battery fails. I have mice that are over 20 years old and still work fine, and I would never buy one I know has a limited lifespan regardless of how much care I take.
 
I may have thrown my MM1s up the wall more then once out of frustration... The darn things kept disconnecting every time the batteries moved a 100th of a millimeter. The MM2s don't have that problem and a quick ten minute charge gives you more than a month usage.
 
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My MM2 is years old now. It works great. If the battery gives out in the next few years it was a great investment. Batteries going bad in the MM2 is TOTALLY a non-issue.
 
Hi.

got the MM2 since more than 1 year. Never experienced the MM1 but what I can confirm so far , my MM2 need 3 hours of charging then hold on batterie during 3 or 4 months. I confess, I use my Mac book air on a home using, not a pro use. There are someday I don't use it at all. So for my POV battery integrated is just perfect , I hate the AA, you always run out of AA bat when need it....I said upper, I you run out to batt, take a pause of 10 minutes. put the MM2 in charge and work again. :)
 
though I didn't have the MM1, and I just got a used MM2 in black for cheap ($25) I'm liking MM2.

Ergonomically, it being short and the wraparound metal not being the best grip... I have concerns about it being my FAVORITE mouse, but I like the gestures getting used to scrolling on it

and pairing with having the mouse just connected over lightning was pretty convenient

Then again the BT stack on Sierra, which is still the OS on my MBP, is messed up and despite BT working in general with AirPods and any other BT accessory, wasn't playing nice with my Logitech moues I tried or my MS mouse I still have paired to a windows machine so it wasn't like I really had many options in the end
 
I would not buy a MM2 on its own. I have one that came with my 2019 iMac, but I don't use it. The reason I would not buy it is that the battery is not replaceable, and unlike the Magic Keyboard/Trackapd you cannot use it wired once the battery fails. I have mice that are over 20 years old and still work fine, and I would never buy one I know has a limited lifespan regardless of how much care I take.

Interesting... but you buy computers with limited lifespan, correct? How many 20 year old computers are you using daily?

I get the frustration of the "planned obsolescence" argument... but, sadly, we live in a "throw away" culture... bad for the environment, yes, and Apple is, IMO, somewhat hypocritical with their touting the recycle-abity of their products all while continuing to be complicit in the advancement of this "planned obsolescence" pattern. They make them "throw away" so you continue to buy new.

So, with that said, I am not afraid of the MM2 with its internal rechargeable battery...
 
Interesting... but you buy computers with limited lifespan, correct? How many 20 year old computers are you using daily?

I get the frustration of the "planned obsolescence" argument... but, sadly, we live in a "throw away" culture... bad for the environment, yes, and Apple is, IMO, somewhat hypocritical with their touting the recycle-abity of their products all while continuing to be complicit in the advancement of this "planned obsolescence" pattern. They make them "throw away" so you continue to buy new.

So, with that said, I am not afraid of the MM2 with its internal rechargeable battery...
The thing in this case is that the MM1 is a very similar product to the 2nd, other than the battery difference. So, given a choice I would go with the 1st.
 
Can't disagree with that approach, if all things are equal...

But who wants to juggle more batteries?

Already got enough in my rechargeable rotation. Not a fan of integrated batteries being a cash cow for Apple and others, but in this case I think its convenient and one less thing to manage

That aluminum battery door seems as chintzy as a tv remote to me, too

I'd be much more concerned about an integrated laptop battery in my MBP, which I am, but hey what are you gonna do?
 
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