Magic TrackPad AND Magic Mouse

Discussion in 'iMac' started by Glmnet1, Dec 12, 2017.

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TrackPad or Mouse?

  1. Trackpad

    16 vote(s)
    37.2%
  2. Mouse

    4 vote(s)
    9.3%
  3. Both at the same time

    9 vote(s)
    20.9%
  4. Switching between them based on the activity

    14 vote(s)
    32.6%
  1. Glmnet1 macrumors 6502a

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    #1
    I never considered the possibility of using both at the same time until I watched videos of the iMac Pro today.

    Is there anyone using this setup? What do you use each of them for?
     
  2. OldGreyGuy macrumors member

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    Don't use the Magic Mouse too flat for me and my arthritis. I find the Trackpad works with no problems.
     
  3. turbineseaplane macrumors 601

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    I've been doing this quite a bit actually.
    Magic Keyboard in the middle, trackpad on the left and a mouse on the right.

    After all these years I've tired out my arm/elbow on the right/mouse side and it helps me a lot to minimize what I do with the mouse. With the pad on the left I can use that for scrolling/gestures and the occasional usage as the actual pointing device (slowly getting better with that part of it). I can even be using the mouse to move the cursor but the pad/left hand to click and it all adds up to less & less wear and tear on the right side for me.
     
  4. J.Gallardo macrumors regular

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    I’m interested! My new iMac just arrived (in its box yet). I ordered it with Magic Trackpad instead of Magic Mouse (wich I already have; 1st gen). I think a lot of people may be in the same situation... as a Magic Mouse is owned by a lot of last iMacs buyers.
    Of course, I plan to use them both.
    I’d like to know if system makes good use of both at same time... Are there problems, interfering mess?
    Does it feel “natural”, or you have to remember not to make a “press” on both at same time?
    In general... Has Apple implemented a studied OS response to this possibility?
     
  5. Bryan Bowler macrumors 68040

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    I’ve been using a trackpad and mouse concurrently for a little over 2 years with the trackpad on the left and the mouse on the right and I love it. It’s hard to pinpoint the way in which I use both because it is not consistent, but it has become second nature to me and has greatly reduced the strain on my wrists and forearms.
     
  6. turbineseaplane macrumors 601

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    Do you favor one over the other?
    For me I am just trying to minimize my right side use (the worn down side), but there are some activities (like FCP) where I just have to use the Mouse and specifically in my right hand to have the precision I need.

    What about you?
    Do share please!
    I know lots of us RSI struggling people really appreciate reading how others do things.

    I find ergonomic discussions sort of lost in the malaise of all the devices and positions and setups nowadays and I'm not convinced at all that tablets/phones are doing great things ergonomically, let alone desktop/notebook stuff.
     
  7. Glmnet1 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Very interesting that a lot seem to use both as a way to reduce strain on the right arm. I don't have that kind of problem yet but it seems to be a good preventative measure.

    I think I'll order both on my next setup and see how it goes.
     
  8. turbineseaplane macrumors 601

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    +10 on that man - seriously.
    We all sort of think "it can't happen to us"... but it does

    Sucks. :(
     
  9. Traverse macrumors 604

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    I personally love the Magic Mouse. I tried the original Magic Tacklad and found it uncomfotable. However, I love the new Magic Trackapd and use it 90% of the time. I only pull out the mouse for isolated tasks.

    For me, I like that I am just moving my hand around a mostly static space instead of moving my arm in a little park all over the desk where the bumps into things
     
  10. jzuena macrumors 6502a

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    I have both, but the mouse is next to the keyboard and the trackpad (an older original Magic Trackpad) is on the desk above the keyboard. So I use the mouse more. There are times (like right now while the mouse is recharging!) that I'll move the trackpad next to the keyboard.
     
  11. turbineseaplane macrumors 601

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    The one thing I'll say about the trackpad itself, is that I'm starting to think about propping up one side (right or left depending upon your placement) to try to give it a touch of angle to match up better with my hand angle.

    I'm not sure how ergonomic these completely flat surfaces are over the long term.
     
  12. michaelmyers macrumors newbie

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    Using both on my iMac seems to confuse them a little. In my case, they are both hooked up, and I can use whatever I want. Keyboard is at the left, Magic Trackpad in the middle, and Magic Mouse at the right.

    For example, if I'm looking at my Apple Mail, with the track pad I can click on the message list, and swipe a message to the left, getting the red box for deletion, or swipe the message the other way, which I think makes it "unread".

    The mouse has different ways to do this, so when both are hooked up, the mouse gets the message header to start to move to the right or left, but not all the way. So I usually delete the message with the delete icon up near the top of the screen.

    Each of them seems to slightly confuse the other, but for using one at a time, it's no problem, and no big deal.
     
  13. alien3dx, Mar 28, 2018
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    alien3dx macrumors 6502a

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    it bit pretty weird for me..
    Left -> magic mouse
    center -> keyboard
    right -> logitech mouse

    magic mouse -> vertical
    logitech -> horizontal

    Magic mouse pretty bad user experince..Because my hand small and always accidently touch not suppose 2. Apple should create a half interaction instead of full up and down

    ** for sure to full usable magic mouse.. had to use one finger instead of palm
     
  14. OBirder macrumors 6502

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    I alternate. I use the Magic Trackpad for all common tasks, Browser, Spreadsheets, Word documents, Finder, Keyword tagging in Lightroom ...

    For Precision work e.g. cropping in Lightroom I use a Mouse, but not the Magic Mouse (as some mentioned too flat). I use the Logitech MX Master 2S.
     
  15. HDFan, Mar 28, 2018
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    HDFan macrumors 65816

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    My setup is: Apple trackpad - Logitech ergonometric keyboard - Performance mouse MX on a MacPro.

    My mouse is the Logitech Performance MX which I find to be vastly superior to the apple mouse as it fits my hand perfectly in its resting claw position. Same thing for the Logitech keyboard. Much less stress on my wrists due to the keyboard curve, more responsive, requires less energy. I have to pound the Apple keyboard keys sometimes multiple times to get something to happen.

    If I want scroll to the top of this thread I use the trackpad two finger scroll since you allows you to do fast inertial scrolling. As I edit this I use the mouse to quickly select and change a typo, hit the "post reply" button. While reading I'll also scroll with the trackpad and use the mouse to point to where I am in the text - like using your finger to point to your position when reading a paper book. If I just need to move up to look at at near older posts I'll use the scroll wheel on the mouse since it allows much more control. But sometimes I'll use the trackpad for that as well.

    The trackpad I use for:

    *4 finger pinch for Launchpad, for apps not in my dock
    3 finger slide up/down to move items to another desktop
    3 finder glide right/left to move between desktops and widget page
    *2 finger expand to increase safari display size
    2 finger slide right/left for safari <> buttons

    The * items I just heavily, every few minutes.

    The mouse I use for:

    Precise cursor positioning, button pushing, launching dock items, getting dock options, finder tool bar options (snagit, iStat Menus, Accuweather, etc).

    I use the trackpad cursor positioning only as a backup when my mouse isn't working. To go all the way from left to right on my display takes something like 5 finger lifts. I find it awkward to have to lift a finger to scroll around the screen, and it's just too slow. I prefer to lift the heavier mouse rather than my finger because the mouse fit my hand exactly as it rests in the claw position. The trackpad requires the fingers to be flat across its surface which I find to be uncomfortable as that position is not natural.

    So if I could only have one device it would be my Performance MX mouse, hands down. But using both gives me the feeling that I'm doing everything twice as fast.

    Footnote. I adjusted my trackpad tracking speed so that a drag from the left edge of my screen to the right edge required just one drag from the left edge of the trackpad to the right. But that hand position is just uncomfortable.
     
  16. Steve121178 macrumors 601

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    The magic mouse is the worst mouse I've ever used. I use the TrackPad 90% of the time and a logitech mouse when I want precision or if I am using Photoshop.
     
  17. alien3dx macrumors 6502a

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  18. turbineseaplane macrumors 601

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    I've tried about 5 times now over the years to "get into" the Magic Mouse and my conclusion is the same as yours.

    It's just awful.
    I don't honestly know how people use it, let alone love it, but kudos to them.

    Obviously we are all different.
     
  19. michaelmyers macrumors newbie

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    For years, I used a Logitech mouse, as it fit my hand. It's still connected now to my MacBook Pro. The iMac I bought came with a Magic Mouse, and I added the new Magic Trackpad. Before I added the trackpad, the mouse was just fine. I was pleased with the way it worked, the way I could move my hand around on top of it, or move the whole mouse. Very different, but also very powerful. Being able to instantly zoom in on the screen image was a wonderful bonus - and after playing around with the other things it can do, I think it's great. I never got serious about replacing it with a Logitech mouse, but I'm getting pretty serious about buying another Magic Mouse for my MacBook.

    The only "unusual" things started when I hooked up the Magic Trackpad. With the trackpad, you swipe one way to get to the <delete> button, and the other to get to the <unread> button. With the mouse, those things start to appear, but I'm not sure how to program the mouse to do it the way the trackpad does.

    The Magic Mouse can do SO many things. It's confusing at first to get used to all of them, but now that I've gotten used to it, the Logitech mouse seems too.... basic.



    Update - by using two fingers, and the Magic Mouse, I can now swipe a message one way or another to see the unread or the delete choice. The only one I ever use is delete, but now it's working just fine!
     
  20. Glockworkorange macrumors 68000

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    Yes. Mouse on the right for general....mousing activities. Trackpad on the left for when I need to zoom on a PDF or Word document (or any zooming, really). I cannot stand repeatedly pushing COMMAND +
    --- Post Merged, Mar 29, 2018 ---
    A lot of us love it. It's the ability to perform gestures for me. I can see why it is controversial. There are others out there that hate mice in general and prefer the trackpad.
     
  21. dwfaust, Mar 29, 2018
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    dwfaust macrumors 601

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    I love my Magic Mouse the gesture options, the smooth top is great for scrolling, gestures, etc ... the ONLY problem with the MM2 IMO is the placement of the lightning connector... when it dies, there is no way to charge it and continue using it... this is a perfect example of Apple's "style over substance" issue that rears its ugly head on occasion.

    I have 4 or 5 MM/MM2 units around my house... for use on iMacs, MBA and Minis.
     
  22. Glockworkorange macrumors 68000

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    You use a mouse with a laptop?

    I see this occasionally at airports and such---some people must really hate their laptop track pads, which for Windows users I totally get.
     
  23. dwfaust macrumors 601

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    I use both ... depends on the activity. I use a mouse with Photoshop and FinalCut ... trackpad for most other stuff.
     

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