magnetic control on new imac

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  1. andrewline6 macrumors member

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    anyone made their own way or found a good place to put their control for the aluminium iMac? are there holders available or something? seems like the only thing apple forgot to put on the new imac.
     
  2. ShadowXOR macrumors regular

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  3. andrewline6 thread starter macrumors member

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    they had it standard on the white imac before the aluminium
     
  4. ShadowXOR macrumors regular

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    They must have had it shielded then, but I still don't feel comfortable having magnets near my machine...
     
  5. spork183 macrumors 6502a

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    Still seems they could have at least put something in the base so the thing didn't just lay around. And what's up with the white remote? Did they get a bargain basement deal on em and need to use them before they can update with something that remotely (sic) matches the aluminums?
     
  6. andrewline6 thread starter macrumors member

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    i agree
     
  7. gehrbox macrumors 65816

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    If you are using either of Apples keyboards you can store it under the keyboard next to to the battery area. Add vecro or attach a small pouch to keep it in place. Its out of sight and easily found.
     
  8. iCheddar macrumors 6502a

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    You'll notice if you set your remote somewhere around the edge of the screen, eventually it'll stick.

    The glass on the Alu iMacs is held on by several small magnets. I'd recommend top or bottom corners.
     
  9. rthall macrumors newbie

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    A little unconventional, but this is what I do. I have a magnet from on old hard drive that I wrapped in black electrical tape. I put the magnet on the frame of a lamp that sits next to my iMac. The black tape both makes the magnet invisible on the frame as well as protects the remote from getting scratched. I then get a nice place to store the remote so it will never get lost, is out of the way when I don't need it, and is in reach when I do need it.
     
  10. Leon Kowalski macrumors 6502a

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    Nothing in the iMac would be affected by a puny little magnet like the one
    in the white iMac's frame that holds the remote.

    Magnets are a problem with CRTs, but not LCDs. The ALU iMac's glass face
    plate is held in place by magnets -- and it would take a magnet thousands
    of times more powerful than them to affect a hard drive.

    OTOH, the magnetic holder on the white iMac just barely works -- you'd
    be far better off with with a pair of self-adhesive velcro strips.

    LK
     
  11. ShadowXOR macrumors regular

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    Magnets are also a problem for HDDs I believe...
     
  12. gehrbox macrumors 65816

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    Reread Leon's post. The HDD is in the center rear of the iMac. Also all iMac's have speakers that contain more powerful magnets then was used to hold the remote on older iMacs.

    I carry a laptop in my tool bag and have several screw drivers and nutdrivers with magnetic tips that are in very close proximity to the laptop HDD at times. Never had any problems and have been doing it for many years now.
     
  13. ShadowXOR macrumors regular

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    Well I'm in IT and magnetic screw drivers (as convenient as they are) are black listed! I'm just paranoid and err on the side of caution.
     
  14. gehrbox macrumors 65816

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    In my job they are not convenience, they are required. I have around 40GB of service manuals on my laptop in PDF form along with another 10GB of system code and firmware files for updating equipment I service. If any of them were to get corrupted by magnetic fields I would notice within a very short time.

    Beyond that the CPU case is hardly lacking magnetic content right from the factory. In addition to the speakers the following are sources of magnets found in every computer case: the motor that turns the HDD platters, the DVD drive motor, the floppy drive and the motors that drive the cooling fans. Does not cause any issues.

    Yup paranoid.
     
  15. ShadowXOR macrumors regular

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    Those are designed to be contained to not cause issues. I've never seen an IT job that allows you to use magnetic tools. Until you make the rules for the IT field, I'll continue going the standard way that everyone does.
     
  16. gehrbox macrumors 65816

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    Just pointing out that computers have magnets all over the place and that it's not likely a small magnet used to hold a light weight remote control is going to harm HDD data. I gave several examples and related my personal experience.

    As far as IT fields that use magnetic tools, ever scanned a document across a network, printed a page or made a copy? Many, if not most of these devices contain HDD's, run Linux or various flavors of Windows. Some of them have PC's strapped to them for image processing. Others have them embedded. The tools of the trade include magnetic screw and nut drivers. These are the industry standard tools for working in the equipment.

    Be as careful as you like, I promise I won't change the rules in your work place :D
     
  17. ShadowXOR macrumors regular

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    Everywhere I've ever worked, and reading all the books for all of my tests, always say not to use magnetic. And all the kits they sell for repair do not come with magnetic... I've never seen anyone use magnetic and know tons of people...I would say that places that use magnetic are not the standard. Maybe printers or something use them, but at least in regards to PCs (particularly servers).
     
  18. jacksam101 macrumors member

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    Try taking the screen off the iMac and you'll "feel" how strong the magnets are!! I was surprised!!
     
  19. gehrbox macrumors 65816

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    I'm not doubting you, your company policies or your training. Do you also believe that using a cell phone or iPod on a plane will cause its navigation or other electronic systems to malfunction? Of course not it's silly and has been proven false by field tests not to be an issue. Yet there are still rules to prevent their use. Point is that some things you are told are guidelines to keep you out of trouble in case you decide that the top of the HDD case is a good place to rest the tip of your magnetic screwdriver.

    I use magnet tools in PC's (sometimes servers) all the time and so long as you don't wave it around like a magic wand over the surface of the disk for a prolonged period of time you are not going to harm any data. It's not as hazardous to your computer as you have been led to believe. I know this from field experience. The magnets used in the tips of screw drivers are not as potent as you think. If you don't want to believe me that's OK. I know better.

    Getting back to the original topic - Use velcro to hold you remote control or the police will come after you for HDD abuse :)
     
  20. andrewline6 thread starter macrumors member

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    haha. nice
     
  21. JNB macrumors 604

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    The "magnets near drives" ideas are from 30 years ago and more, and completely OBE with today's equipment. Nothing left but urban myths & FUD.

    Magnetic screwdrivers are usually on the order of a couple hundred Gauss, whereas the coercivity of the HDD platter is no less than 650 Oersted (probably at least twice that). To degauss something, you need at least 2-3 times the Oersted rating--with no intermediate medium, such as the HDD case-- to do the job.

    So, absolute worst (and unrealistically paranoid) case, a magnetic field would have to be at least 1300 Gauss to begin to damage the platters, whereas the screwdriver is less than a quarter of that strength at best. Commercial degaussers are about 4500 Gauss & up (and run thousands of dollars).
     
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    :confused:

    :p
     
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