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Mail Privacy Protection Seemingly Undermined by Apple Watch [Updated]

ScubaCinci said:
Who reads email on their watch - especially messages from potential spammers? Simple work-around, don't open email messages on your watch except from those senders you trust.
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People do! For example, a quick glance at work messages that came in while one is taking a quick walking break. It happens.
 
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antiprotest said:
Slipping more and more on privacy and security while adding more and more "safety" and "child protection" features that could compromise privacy and security.
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To be fair, the service is advertised as “beta”, so it’s not a full production product available for rollout.
 
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Just remember folks, Apple is about the Keynote, not functionality, at least for the first couple of years after new functionality is released. And even then, only if enough media goes after Apple for poor functionality.
 
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LivingMyBeachLife said:
You do realize that Apple is not a trailblazer on "child protection" features. Facebook, Google and others already have these features. They just weren't forthright in announcing.

Every time you log on to a site or app, your privacy and security has already been compromised. You've given up your right to privacy. Read the Terms of services and End User License Agreements of the sites and apps you use. You have no privacy. Why do you think you have to "opt out" versus being given the choice to "opt in"
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Do they run those features on your phone or in the cloud though? As far as I'm aware only Apple are planning to actively spy on their users by running the scanning on device. I'm happy for Apple to scan my files in the cloud, not when they're on my device.
 
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GermanSuplex said:
Apple is great, but some of their oversights are mind-boggling. For instance - you still can't mass-delete messages from the watch. Does nobody in Apple wearing an Apple Watch get tired of having to do that? I surely can't be the only one?

And given that virtually everyone with an Apple Watch use an iPhone and other iOS/Mac OS devices, this comes close to making the mail privacy features useless.
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Drives me nuts.

I'm somewhat spammed with uptime texts on servers I monitor. Any time a service goes down, a text is sent, when it comes back up, I get another, but the text always comes from a random phone number. So... ten messages to remove on my phone at once... or a finger exercise swiping and deleting on the watch thirty times.
 
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now i see it said:
It’s not like an IP address is very useful to anyone.

Here’s an example of one: 69.89.31.226

Now find me.
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Well, it geolocates to Provo, UT but that’s probably completely wrong as IP geolocation is inaccurate and it’s a webhost IP address so the server could be physically in any of their datacentres.

But yeah, there’s very little you can do with an IP address unless you have a way of getting subscriber information from the ISP, such as being in law enforcement etc.
 
Also undermining the Mail app's privacy is that I won't use it until it adds support for tabs in Gmail. If Mimestream can do it (granted, on Mac), so can Apple.
 
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Unsupported said:
Not in the latest versions of Mail. That option no longer exists.
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Huh, I just checked. It does exist, but only if you disable the new privacy function. That’s because they do in fact preload all the content. This is fine if you’re using a Hide My Email address, but it’s annoying if you’re using your normal one.
 
Another click-bait nothing-burger. Apple has added some great new privacy features that you didn't have before, and perhaps have not yet addressed the 0.01% use case of people that read mail on their Watch. BFD.
 
Will Tisdale ? said:
Well, it geolocates to Provo, UT but that’s probably completely wrong as IP geolocation is inaccurate and it’s a webhost IP address so the server could be physically in any of their datacentres.

But yeah, there’s very little you can do with an IP address unless you have a way of getting subscriber information from the ISP, such as being in law enforcement etc.
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There's a public geo database that's "loose" and there's a pay-for one from MaxMind that is eerily accurate.
 
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antiprotest said:
Slipping more and more on privacy and security while adding more and more "safety" and "child protection" features that could compromise privacy and security.
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Can you name features has apple launched that compromise privacy and safety? Because I can't think of any.

Also, adding new privacy and security features is a good thing. That bugs slip in is unfortunate but tends to be a part of life when it comes to shipping new software.

On the whole, I don't see how Apple is slipping on privacy and security.

But I guess we live in different realities.
 
DogHouseDub said:
It's HORRIBLE that something which didn't exist 2 months ago doesn't work properly. What are we supposed to do now? Go back to how we were receiving email in August 2021?
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Exactly!

Someone had a take in these comments that this is proof that apple is slipping more and more on safety and privacy.

According to some people, it's as if all bugs are intentional and everything is a conspiracy.
 
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Apple releases half baked software?! I’m shocked! Shocked!

For real though, their software has been their biggest weak point for YEARS.
 
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