Major Step for Apple TV

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  1. sdawgisinthebui, Jun 6, 2011
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    sdawgisinthebui macrumors member

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    in iOS 5 they say that Apple TV can mirror the iPad 2. That means that all iPad apps like Hulu and anything else we wish there was for APple tv is now for apple tv!

    As an Apple TV user I am filled with Joy and Happness
     
  2. gcmexico macrumors 6502a

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    I was thinking the same thing

    Apple just killed GoogleTV, if it works the way we think it will, all you need is an AppleTV and an Ipad, have a mac mini running somewhere, and boom you get everything you ever wanted, Hulu Plus, Netflix, Plex, airvideo, everything!!:eek:
     
  3. awr macrumors member

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    Anyone know why this would only be available for ipad 2 and not the original?

    hardware limitation that i'm not aware of?
     
  4. Che Castro macrumors 603

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    Why only the ipad ? And not the iPhone.?

    And you guys exited about this ?
     
  5. gcmexico macrumors 6502a

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    absolutely EXCITED!! for those of us who want a clean break from cable, this is god sent, so many boxes out there trying to kill cable, Roku, Boxee, AppleTV, etc...now to just be able to mirror your ipad to a tv wirelessly, you can get rid of all those boxes (except the appletv), you can run safari sites that have html 5 with no problems, youtube app would work, the mac mini running somewhere with EyeTV, will give you live tv, with DVR capablities...for media server junkies like me, this big...IOS had all the apps, now you can just stream them to the tv, and if you want to watch something else, you can rent a movie or tv show...you go Apple:D


    First gen Ipad and iphone 4 should work as well

    keep in mind this will only be a game changer if all the apps work with the mirroring of the ipad, if there are limitations, it will SUCK
     
  6. jdmagoo1 macrumors regular

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    I think u will find that it will do video only, no audio
     
  7. eTip macrumors 6502

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    I haven't seen or heard any evidence of this. As I recall "iPad2" was mentioned specifically during the keynote. In addition, the iPad 2 is the only IOS device that currently does screen mirroring (via HDMI cable). Don't get me wrong, as an original iPad owner - I hope you are right.
     
  8. rkmac macrumors 6502

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    If you go here you will see that it says
    Looks like it will be iPad 2 only.
     
  9. peterjcat macrumors 6502

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    It also looks like it won't fill the screen, so for all video content wider than 4:3 you'd have black bars all around the video -- you could zoom in using the TV but at the expense of some quality.

    Also, the video would presumably have to be recoded on-the-fly for mirroring — which is probably why you need an iPad 2 and which would further reduce quality, particularly for moving images. Actual AirPlay of compatible video files will always be better than Airplay Video Mirroring, but the latter should be useful where there's no alternative.
     
  10. EvilC5 macrumors 6502a

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    I have been using EyeTV with my ipad to airplay to the ATV2 since they updated the app, so I guess the mirror aspect isnt as exciting to me, but could be cool for web surfing when you are showing to a group....the wife asked me to set my ipad up where she could demo a webpage to some people and i used tv genie out, and the results could have been better.
     
  11. newagemac macrumors 68020

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    Most likely the A4 processor can't handle playing HD video in two places at once which is why this feature is limited to the iPad 2. The iPad 2 is the only iOS device that has the A5 processor which can easily handle even 1080p mirroring.
     
  12. newagemac macrumors 68020

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    Neither Airplay nor mirroring decreases the quality of the video. You get the same stream as if you were watching directly on the iOS device.
     
  13. peterjcat macrumors 6502

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    Certainly regular AirPlay doesn't decrease the quality of the video, and AirPlay Mirroring is smart enough to switch to regular AirPlay when it can (ie when your app or website is already AirPlay enabled). But for non-AirPlay apps, AirPlay Mirroring has to compress a new video stream from everything that's on your iPad screen, which will result in loss of quality. It does a good job and you might not notice the compression, but it's there.

    The good news is that stereo sound is also streamed. And if your app is enabled for Video Out then it can fill the external screen instead of being pillarboxed. It looks like the AirPlay Mirroring just presents the ATV2 as a Video Out device like the AV Adapter (will test with Real Racing later!) -- except that when it's truly mirroring it has to compress the video as WiFi can't handle uncompressed video like HDMI can.
     
  14. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    Why would that be the case? When you use AirPlay with Videos/Slideshows, audio is sent to the TV as well.
     
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  17. Kahnyl macrumors 68000

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    Mirroring a small screen on a tv would be weird.
     
  18. JoeShades macrumors 6502a

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    when i play a video i took with my ipod touch on my tv it looks good. when i try on of the few apps that use airplay the video looks good so i don't see the issue
     
  19. oneofthesedaves macrumors regular

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    Why would you need an A5 chip to do this? I watch videos by streaming air play from my iPad 1 to my :apple:TV. I streamed the entire keynote this way. It worked just fine.
     
  20. gcmexico macrumors 6502a

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    does anyone know if the 1st gen Appletv can do airplay? can't seem to find a firm answer on that
     
  21. Ratatapa macrumors 6502a

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    Can you mirror a game like realracing hd2 from wifi iPad and play it 1080p??? Or still need the hdmi for it


    Sent from my iPad2 using Tapatalk
     
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    I got the beta for both installed ipad2 and Apple TV and for iphone of course but did not get it to work .
     
  23. Worf macrumors regular

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    If :apple: doesn't provide iPad 1 or iPhone 4 compatibility with this feature I'm sure we'll see a jailbreak tweak make up for it.
     
  24. peterjcat macrumors 6502

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    You can play it, but of course it's not 1080p as it has to go through the ATV2 which is limited to 720p, and then it's further compressed to fit through the WiFi connection.
     
  25. peterjcat macrumors 6502

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    You have to distinguish between regular AirPlay and AirPlay Mirroring. Regular AirPlay takes an already-encoded video stream and just sends it out over the WiFi, so it doesn't need any real processing power (in fact much less processing power than it would take to play on the device itself). AirPlay Mirroring needs to encode a new video stream, which takes substantial processing power.
     

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