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mac_head101 said:
He's a stupid brat, that's all. 99% of kids (at least who I know) would NEVER do anything like that. He's embarrassed me and all of my friends, because it now seems that some people here think all kids my age are like that! :eek:

I try to be optimistic. The news business earns a living by putting out what we will buy every day. Sadly good news doesn't sell. I believe that there are more good children. An example is all the very kind nice young people at my church.
 
Mr_Ed said:
While it would be incorrect to say that every child needs to be spanked now and then, it would be just as incorrect to say that no child requires it as an option.
I disagree. There are many other ways to communicate right/wrong aside from striking a child. I do not believe hitting a child will produce positive results. I'm curious to know what you, and others who believe in corporal punishment, believe that striking a child accomplishes.
 
2A Batterie said:
I disagree. There are many other ways to communicate right/wrong aside from striking a child. I do not believe hitting a child will produce positive results. I'm curious to know what you, and others who believe in corporal punishment, believe that striking a child accomplishes.

Ok, I've been researching the Mongols way too much, but it's like the Mongols. I know that once I was spanked a few times, I had a fear of doing wrong. I knew that if I did something that my parents thought was wrong (or, really, what was wrong), I'd be fetching a belt in no time.

What I'm trying to say is that it's a punishment. In my parents disciplining me through "striking" (I think that's a bit harsh), they were able to display to me right and wrong, trigger a fear of doing wrong, and being able to get it out of the way. Once my punishment was served, all was well again.

In the end, not to sound boastful or anything, but I'm a well respected person who's growing up to be a very calm and not violent person. Something went right in my child hood, and I think that being "stricken" was right.

But there's another side to that. My parents knew what they were doing, and didn't do it out of anger. Some parents punish their kids out of anger, which can hurt both of them, especially the kid. There's always a few sides to an idea, and this is where the "stricking" of a child can go wrong.
-Chase
 
I could not have said that any better. I would add that "doing wrong" is often behavior that could endanger the child's well being and in those situations, parents may escalate to more severe discipline methods to draw attention to the bad behavior make a point that there are negative consequences to that behavior. Example: Child insists on running into the road where there is traffic. Told the child not to do it. Child does it again. Many parents might resort to some kind of spanking a that point. Convince me that the parent should take a chance by doing something else like "grounding" the child after the second violation in a situation like that.
 
Mr_Ed said:
Convince me that the parent should take a chance by doing something else like "grounding" the child after the second violation in a situation like that.

Physical/emotional aspects aside, I have to say that in today's society, grounding a kid seems a lot worse than hitting them:

-Take away their phone/computer/tv/videogame/radio/everythingelectronic privilges
-Tell them they can't leave their room
-Make them read

They're going to be very bored. That would deter me from doing bad things.
 
StarbucksSam said:
Physical/emotional aspects aside, I have to say that in today's society, grounding a kid seems a lot worse than hitting them:

-Take away their phone/computer/tv/videogame/radio/everythingelectronic privilges
-Tell them they can't leave their room
-Make them read

They're going to be very bored. That would deter me from doing bad things.
I don't think anyone here would suggest that "grounding" isn't an effective method, but your solution might not fit my example. By the time the child has phone/computer/tv/videogame/radio/electronics, I doubt he is at an age where you worry about him darting out into the road. Again, I'm not suggesting that non-physical methods of adjusting a child's behavior are not effective. Personally, physical methods were used on me only a handful (no pun intended :)) of times in my life. I am only arguing that in some situations, with some children, the physical methods are effective as well.
 
sounds like people who need to be hit cannot go through life on their own. maybe violent people should stop reproducing... you're ruining it for those of us born with a logical mind.


peace.
 
Everyone knows physical punishment of kids can get out of hand, but I've seen plenty of cases were a well timed spanking (or the threat of one) quickly restores order. I'm always dismayed when I encounter people who think "timeout" is all anyone needs. Maybe for some docile children thats all it takes.
 
Thats what happens when you find a tatty plastic white box, saying intel inside pentium 4 on it instead of getting a shiny aluminium prestige machine like an aple G5, i would of done the same lol.
 
wdlove said:
I try to be optimistic. The news business earns a living by putting out what we will buy every day. Sadly good news doesn't sell. I believe that there are more good children. An example is all the very kind nice young people at my church.
no offense, but you're delusional. please, join us all in the real world.

this kid is just a spoiled brat, the mother got the results of her parenting, nothing more. i knew a kid who used to pull his mother's hair and hit her n **** while she was driving, and she just put up with it, WHILE they were on the way to go buy him gifts. needless to say this guy is a real piece of work now....
 
neut said:
sounds like people who need to be hit cannot go through life on their own. maybe violent people should stop reproducing... you're ruining it for those of us born with a logical mind.


peace.
a logical mind would be able to see the reasoning behind physical discipline. if the child doesn't respond to any other discipline and he acts exceedingly violent towards people, a taste of his own medicine is sometimes what it takes.

i also guarentee he won't be stabbing anyone with a broken arm. :)
 
BrianKonarsMac said:
a logical mind would be able to see the reasoning behind physical discipline. if the child doesn't respond to any other discipline and he acts exceedingly violent towards people, a taste of his own medicine is sometimes what it takes.

i also guarantee he won't be stabbing anyone with a broken arm. :)

a logical mind would euthanize violent people, but your applying it too late anyways. if nurtured correctly... violence will only sprout from fear.

*****
as far as wdlove's comment... i think your the one who is delusional. what did you do when you saw that child hit her mother? i would ask them to stop or i'd ask to be dropped off immediatley. i do not tolerate stupidity.

there are far more good children in this world than you would believe... but most of them are just as scared as thier parents, but neither of them will admit it. all emotions held in... until an explosion of energy. who's going to explode first?

wild children are mannered so, for thier own protection. jungle boy. wolf girl. ghetto child. trash baby.


peace.
 
wdlove said:
When I was 13, there wasn't all the commercials and peer pressure to want all that much. I didn't know what I was getting either.
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Selective memory? I don't know how old you are but I grew up in the 80s and there were a lot of commercials and peer pressure to get the latest toys. I don't recall any less than there are now.

There were psychos like this kid back then too. The only difference is the information didn't spread like it does today on the internet.
 
hayesk said:
Selective memory? I don't know how old you are but I grew up in the 80s and there were a lot of commercials and peer pressure to get the latest toys. I don't recall any less than there are now.

There were psychos like this kid back then too. The only difference is the information didn't spread like it does today on the internet.

I grew up in the 50's. So it was quit a different world. TV was in its infancy, only three channels. We were happy with what we received. I agree that cable and the internet has made a large difference.
 
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