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Want to lose weight without giving up junk food?

It may sound too good to be true, but nutrition professor Mark Haub proved you can have your cake and eat it too - by putting himself on a "Snack Cake Diet" and losing 27 pounds in 2 months.

Haub, who teaches at Kansas State University, set out to prove that losing weight is simple: it's all about how much you eat, not what you eat.

In other words, you can eat whatever you want, but you have to cut calories.

He tested the theory on himself, trimming his calorie intake from 2600 calories per day to 1800, and eating meals consisting of food typically found in vending machines.

According to his food diary, in an average day he would eat Duncan Hines brownies, Hostess Twinkies, Cool Ranch Doritos chips, Little Debbie cakes and Kellogg's corn pops.

Haub started the diet on Aug. 25 as an experiment for his students, weighing in at 210 pounds with an “overweight” body mass index (BMI) of 28.8.

He kept track of the results on his Facebook page "Prof Haub's Diet Experiments."

After two months of eating the "unhealthy food," his weight dropped to 174 pounds, and his BMI is now a healthy 24.9.

Surprisingly, in addition to his weight loss, his diet seems to have improved his other health stats.

In the latest results posted to his Facebook page on Nov. 5, Haub says his "bad" cholesterol, or LDL, dropped 30 points from 153 to 123, while his "good" cholesterol, or HDL, went up from 37 to 46 points. His triglyceride level, another measure of fat, dropped 39 percent.

"That's where the headscratching comes," Haub told CNN. "What does that mean? Does that mean I'm healthier? Or does it mean how we define health from a biology standpoint, that we're missing something?"

Haub says the majority of his meals consisted of junk food. He did not drink much soda, drank a protein shake every day, and took a multivitamin daily.

He also ate vegetables, often a can of green beans, to be a good example to his kids, CNN reports. He didn't do any special exercise regimen as part of the diet, sticking to the moderate activity he was accustomed to before he began the experiment.

Dietitian Dawn Jackson Blatner says it’s not surprising Haub saw health benefits in conjunction with his weight loss, even though he was eating heavily processed snack foods.

"When you lose weight, regardless of how you're doing it -- even if it's with packaged foods, generally you will see these markers improve when weight loss has improved," Blatner told CNN. However she warned against the idea that it would be a good idea to stick to the plan in the long term. "There are things we can't measure...How much does [a lack of fresh fruit and vegetables] affect the risk for cancer? We can't measure how diet changes affect our health."

Though he has seen the results on his own body, even Haub isn’t recommending that overweight Americans run out and try his plan.
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That's a cool experiment - and just goes to prove (not that it needed proving) that weight loss is all about calorie control.

It must have been a really tough diet to follow though. Sounds easy to eat just junk food - but the high calories in junk food means he wouldn't have been able to eat much, and the high sugar content would have really thrown his insulin levels all over the place and likely made him crave food.

Cravings + serious limitations on the quantity you can eat = very tough diet to stick to.

Put it this way. A twinkie bar contains 150 calories (it's full of fat - 40g and sugar - 19g). So for a 1800 calorie diet you could eat only 12 twinkies and nothing else that day.

As a contrast, a cup of roast chicken breast has 231 calories (only 5g of fat, 0g of sugar). So for that 1800 calorie daily allowance you could eat about 8 cups. It would be unlikely to trigger any cravings.

Just comparing these two, it's much easier to NOT eat junk on a diet - since you can eat so much more. I think 8 cups of chicken sounds a whole lot more filling than 12 twinkies!
 
I've never eaten a twinkie, and I don't mind.

I sought them out the first time I visited the 'States.

Very soft sponge cake, some chemical in the centre pretending to be cream. I was amazed that they could live for so long in a vending machine without going off.

They're OK. I'd probably eat one if it was given to me - but they're definitely not filling. You wouldn't feel well (or full) if you just ate 12 in a day.
 
I don't understand why people are amazed by this.

It's like you saying WOW to my statement:
Did you know that 1,800kg of bricks is lighter than 2,600kg of feathers! *slaps face in amazement* /sarcasm.

I'd like to see him keep that up for 5 years. The "right" foods are still needed. Weight and the quoted measurements of fat is not the whole picture. What was his diet before?
If he was consuming 500 calories from fat daily and now drops it to 400 calories from fat, of course you'll see a decrease in his blood tests. No S**T Einstein.
 
With only some very rare medical exceptions and the mental complexities of compulsive eating aside, the human metabolism is not very difficult to understand. Consume less "fuel" than you burn - you lose weight. Eventually the fuel you utilize will matter though so it's not exactly a sustainable "diet". There is some truth in the saying "you are what you eat." and putting that kind of garbage into your body on a regular basis will have consequences. Garbage in, garbage out... literally and figuratively, as it were.
 
Reminds me of one of my friends, she pretty much just lives in children's sweets and godawful full of sugar junk food yet she's thin as a rake, she has zero stomach fat, it's freakish.
 
As a physician, I tell patients I care less about the shape they are, and more about the shape they are in. Weight is simple: calories in - calories burned = weight change. While I've had patients improve their lipids on the Adkins diet ( which is comprised of foods we've told patients for years to avoid in order to lower cholesterol), I wouldn't want them to eat this diet forever. And horrible cholesterol numbers can be seen in centenarians.

Drawing sweeping conclusions from this one anecdotal example is folly. I worry this well-publicized example will be used by people to justify bad dietary habits.
 
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I worry this well-publicized example will be used by people to justify bad dietary habits.

The "bad dietary habit" isn't really bad at all if it's sold to the masses as a "you can eat what you want but watch the amount/calories" which is essentially true.

I don't think people -- especially those on a current well-balanced (but too large) diet -- are going to go out and start a "junk food only" diet. (Those on a junk diet already would still be better-off on a junk-but-less-of-it diet).
 
The "bad dietary habit" isn't really bad at all if it's sold to the masses as a "you can eat what you want but watch the amount/calories" which is essentially true.

If all you care about is losing weight, that's true. But being the appropriate weight does not equate to being healthy. This article proves that you can lose weight while eating junk food. On the long term though, this kind of diet is horribly unhealthy. People who eat lots of junk food will take this article as an encouragement to eat more of it.
 
Then the terrorists have already won.

ROFL!:D

I was amazed that they could live for so long in a vending machine without going off.

TLC did a "Howstuff Works" article on Twinkies. It's a delicious read:

Today's Twinkie has a much longer shelf life than the ones made in 1930, but not as long as some people think. A variety of myths and urban legends have sprung up around the Twinkie's longevity, claiming that it stays fresh for decades, would survive a nuclear war and that the company is still selling off the original batch made in 1930, still fresh almost 80 years later. In fact, a Twinkie's shelf life is officially 25 days [source: Snopes]. It's also a misconception that Twinkies are chemically preserved. Most of the chemical ingredients are replacements for the ingredients that allow a Twinkie to spoil, but they aren't strictly preservatives. Replacing eggs, butter and fats is what keeps Twinkies from going rancid. In fact, the airtight plastic packaging does far more to keep the cakes fresh than any of the actual ingredients do.

Pretty sure I remember seeing a "How It's Made" (?) episode (the Mike Rowe Narrated show) on Twinkies too. They make like 1,000 of them an hour!:eek: I love 'em, but I don't think I could live on 'em. Snickers and Peanut M&M's OTOH, that's a different story.;)
 
I sought them out the first time I visited the 'States.

Very soft sponge cake, some chemical in the centre pretending to be cream. I was amazed that they could live for so long in a vending machine without going off.

They're OK. I'd probably eat one if it was given to me - but they're definitely not filling. You wouldn't feel well (or full) if you just ate 12 in a day.


They are so processed that I bet they'd survive a nuclear blast. The cockroaches would need something to eat.
 
I never really liked Twinkies, but I used to love Passion Flakies.

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(Hmm, apparently it's a Canadian thing... but essentially it's a little flaky pastry apple-cherry flavoured thing. Like Twinkies, the cream filling is full of chemical goodness.)

I remember one university class (a large first-year class with about 500 students) someone brought boxes of them and threw them all around. We were standing and catching them like we were at a rock concert.

Then I hit the jackpot: the student-run store/lounge was cleaning up its storage room and found entire unopened boxes of snack cakes which had technically gone past their best before date and they were legally not allowed to sell them. So, I took home a box of Passion Flakies.

I ate and ate and ate. Until one day I realized I was sick of them.

That was 14 years ago. I can't eat them anymore. My body just won't let me. :eek:
 
I think people believe twinkies last forever because they have a texture like neoprene and a flavor that is a bit like sweetened polyethylene (not that I have ever actually eaten polyethylene). Now, Tiger Tails, those have some flavor.
 
I think people believe twinkies last forever because they have a texture like neoprene and a flavor that is a bit like sweetened polyethylene (not that I have ever actually eaten polyethylene). Now, Tiger Tails, those have some flavor.

Twinkie uses a non-milk substance, thus studies show that it'll last 25 years.
 
That's a cool experiment - and just goes to prove (not that it needed proving) that weight loss is all about calorie control.

It must have been a really tough diet to follow though. Sounds easy to eat just junk food - but the high calories in junk food means he wouldn't have been able to eat much, and the high sugar content would have really thrown his insulin levels all over the place and likely made him crave food.

Cravings + serious limitations on the quantity you can eat = very tough diet to stick to.

Put it this way. A twinkie bar contains 150 calories (it's full of fat - 40g and sugar - 19g). So for a 1800 calorie diet you could eat only 12 twinkies and nothing else that day.

As a contrast, a cup of roast chicken breast has 231 calories (only 5g of fat, 0g of sugar). So for that 1800 calorie daily allowance you could eat about 8 cups. It would be unlikely to trigger any cravings.

Just comparing these two, it's much easier to NOT eat junk on a diet - since you can eat so much more. I think 8 cups of chicken sounds a whole lot more filling than 12 twinkies!
Query: if 1g of fat=9 Calories and 1g of sugar=4 Calories how does
150 Calories=436 Calories?
;)
They are so processed that I bet they'd survive a nuclear blast. The cockroaches would need something to eat.
Twinkies soaked in Kerosene do not burn...
 
Do Twinkies last forever? Click here to find out!

Regarding the thread topic, as others have stated, losing weight this way isn't healthy, because you're missing essential nutrients.
 
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