Man I hate Lawyers! Threat of Lawsuit over Battery life.

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Rooskibar03, Jul 6, 2007.

  1. Rooskibar03 macrumors 65816


    Feb 5, 2007
    State of Denial
    Every friggen time Apple releases a product the lawyers start to pop out of thier holes and begin talking about lawsuits.

    From MSN:

    Of course the battery cost twice as much as others. Its twice as big as just about anything out there.

    <Not fond of lawyers.
  2. PhatBoyG macrumors regular


    Jun 8, 2007
    Tulsa, OK
    Such a non-issue for me, I could care less about not having a phone for three days. They call that "vacation" in these parts. :)
  3. stoid macrumors 601


    Feb 17, 2002
    So long, and thanks for all the fish!
    So, Apple posts battery replacement procedure that some customers don't like. If replacing the battery is too big a hassle for you, then don't buy the phone. Sure, the first few hours of customers didn't know this, but since Apple has a history of difficult/impossible to replace batteries in portable devices, this is not unexpected.

    I suggest that next time Harvey Rosenfield goes to the store, he ought to pick up a pack of untwistable panties. It'll make his days a lot more comfortable.
  4. Earendil macrumors 68000


    Oct 27, 2003
    I never did understand these kinds of law suits.
    They seem to hinge on the fact that the costumer was either lied to in false advertising, or else the costumer has some sort of standards that all companies must provide.

    It's not the battery life is an hour, it is pretty industry standard. And I know exactly No One that carriers an extra battery. They may have one stuffed away in a closet someplace, but ever actually using it.
  5. DiamondMac macrumors 68040


    Aug 11, 2006
    Washington, D.C.
    I enjoy people who who aren't found of me. :rolleyes:
  6. Earendil macrumors 68000


    Oct 27, 2003
    Well, you must understand, if you are one. When someone comes in contact with a lawyer doing his/her job, it's rarely a positive thing, right? Either they are defending you from being attacked, or they are attacking you. In either case the circumstances don't make the best memories. Even in not court cases, like say for a will, it isn't pleasant.

    But, layers can be great people. You are a person, and here on Macrumors, you are a great person :)
  7. Sack macrumors newbie

    Jun 18, 2006
    Lots of people think they hate us right up until the day when they need us to save their bacon.
  8. DiamondMac macrumors 68040


    Aug 11, 2006
    Washington, D.C.

    To be fair, I didn't go after the defendant TOO HARD today. Just a few hits with the metal crow-bar and a few hits on the head with the pipe

  9. rsbell macrumors regular


    Jul 5, 2007
    Murrieta, CA
    Like I tell people who come to see me:

    Whenever you see a lawyer, it ain't good news...
  10. zeluiz22 macrumors newbie

    Jul 6, 2007
    Yeah, how dare those pesky consumer protection laws besmirch the honor of our blessed American corporations!

    Jeez; liking a product is one thing, but blind obedience to AppleInc.?

    You have no idea how priceless a nation of laws is, apparently. If you want a clue about the alternative, spend a week or two in North Korea.
  11. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

    Rodimus Prime

    Oct 9, 2006
    well they have a slight case. 400 cycles in that battery is maybe 1.5 years for most people if not less because it seems like people are being forced to charge there phones from nearly dead every day.
    Compare that to my cell phone battery has about 400 cycles life span on it and I charge it once every 3-4 days and that is including 1-2 hours of talk time on it.

    That means my battery will easily last over the 2 years of my contracted and until I would replace my phone again and hell even longer if I wanted to push it. The life span of iPhone battery before it needs to be replaced is crap for a cell phone if it can not easily last 2 years. Top it off they charge nearly 2 times as much as everyone else for a replacement. Require you to go with out a phone for 3+ days and will charge you 30 bucks for a loner. That does push it well over 100 bucks for a battery replacement. I can completely understand why the consumer watch dog groups are going after apple on this one and quite frankly apple deserves it.
  12. sananda macrumors 68020

    May 24, 2007
    1. there is no mention of any lawsuit in that article.

    2. there was only a consumer group mentioned, no mention of any lawyers.
  13. whateverandever macrumors 6502a

    Nov 8, 2006
    Class action lawsuit lawyers are generally not a bad thing. There's usually a good reason. This, however, isn't really a good reason.

    As for ambulance chasers... they are the reason the rest of us have to pay extremely high costs for health care, and they should all be thrown into the Grand Canyon and burned alive.
  14. llarson macrumors member

    Jul 1, 2007
    The founder of this group Harvey Rosenfield is a Nader want to be

    He sees himself as the next Ralph Nader. He will sue anyone and the bigger the news splash the better.
  15. bravedeer macrumors member

    Nov 14, 2006
    Yeah Yeah Yeah...

    Everybody hates lawyers until they need one.
  16. Maxiseller macrumors 6502a


    Jan 11, 2005
    Little grey, chilly island.
    Very true.
  17. swindmill macrumors 6502a


    Mar 17, 2005

    Lawyers don't sue people, plaintiff's sue people and have a lawyer represent them.

    You have a very warped sense of lawyers and what they do. It may very well take an ethically questionable lawyer to represent people in some of these tort suits, but there is a corollary in every profession. I don't hate dentists because some have done reprehensible things when patients were knocked out.

    How about, "I'm not fond of people who take advantage of innocent situations and/or people for their own gain."

    With that aside, I didn't read the article nor do I know anything about the case, so I won't comment on its merits.

    That is an utterly false claim. I'm not defending people who try to make a buck off of any and every personal injury that people suffer, but it is simply not true that this is what drives up our health care costs.
  18. Chip NoVaMac macrumors G3

    Chip NoVaMac

    Dec 25, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    I did for my Treo 650 when I was with Sprint. Having an extra battery helped me out in Palm Springs when my flight was delayed and I was making calls and surfing the web to search out options.

    The ability for a spare battery is even more needed in those sorts of delays when listening to tunes or viewing movies. The delays that day (June 4th) made every available electric outlet at PSP and ORD hard to come by.

    Though I agree that this potential lawsuit is bogus. I do hope for the way I use the iPhone that it will make it two years before I need a new battery.

    There was a great post here from a link to the Apple site that mentioned that only charging from a dead state counted as a charge. That if you are at 50%, it would take two charges to count as one.

    I hear you, but there are lawyers out there that will look for every class action lawsuit possible. I think you'll agree that a class action lawsuit can be "profitable" for the lead plaintiffs - and in particular for the lawyers involved. While if the suit is won, generally it is done to the benefit of the company that the suit was filed against.
  19. sananda macrumors 68020

    May 24, 2007
    i find they still hate us even when they need us :(
  20. DiamondMac macrumors 68040


    Aug 11, 2006
    Washington, D.C.
    Oh well, I enjoy what I do.

    I stopped caring after a few months when I realized some will never be happy
  21. AirmanPika macrumors 6502


    Jun 19, 2007
    Vandenberg AFB, CA
    I don't hate lawyers. I hate lawyers who take advantage of the system to make money by finding people who want to sue over the trivial stuff. They end up making the consumer pay more money in the end because whoever they sue has to spend more money to fix things. Meanwhile that lawyer enjoys his new Porsche he got out of the case.
  22. Chupa Chupa macrumors G5

    Chupa Chupa

    Jul 16, 2002
    Hey, for all the cliched lawyer bashing you forget that it was ONLY because of a lawsuit and media attention that Apple even launched an iPod battery replacement program. Before THAT suit Apple basically told you to buy a new iPod.

    As for the merits of this case, I agree they are weak. Apple announced the iPhone battery replacement program during the return period for all iPhone buyers. Plus how many people bought an iPhone and then decided to return it after they learned it would cost $90 to replace? I'm thinking that is a very small Class.

    Still I'm glad someone is trying to get Media attention for the battery replacement program. $90 is crazy. Having to ship the phone in is crazier. Maybe these kind of suits will at least get Apple to NOT solder the battery in. That is just lazy engineering.
  23. whateverandever macrumors 6502a

    Nov 8, 2006
    Doctors have to charge extreme prices because of the liability of malpractice lawsuits. That drives up health insurance costs.

    People need to understand that doctors are human too and that you take a risk with doctors just like with any other fallible human.

    Not to say that doctors that do surgery drunk and whatnot shouldn't have lawsuits brought against them, but they should be criminal lawsuits, not civil suing for money (beyond what is required for care of injured patients).
  24. Gonzlobo Suspended

    May 9, 2007
    Leave it to a lawyer to actually defend what they do. Lawyers suck.
  25. coffey7 macrumors 6502a


    Feb 12, 2006
    Every Apple product I have ever had was very poor with battery life. In fact I just came back from the apple store with a new battery as mine was only getting 1 hour of use before it turned off without warning. My nano gets only 1 hour and 45 minutes when it is supposed to get 4 hours. Lawyers are usefull idiots sometimes.

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