Man shot dead by man who shot dog

[junior]

Originally posted by Frohickey
I don't think it should be first degree.

Let me just say that somehow the prosecutor doesn't think he's got enough evidence to convict Griffin. That is what is important here. Griffin is innocent. He has not been proven guilty. YET.

I have gone to the door with a gun.

Story was this.
I drive home. Since I only have a one car garage, and its my roommates turn to have the garage that month, I park on the street.
So, I drive home, pass by my house, make a u-turn and park on the side of the street.
As I take off my seat belt and grab my laptop bag from the back seat, a guy in an older El Camino drives up. Starts accusing me of following him. He asks if I'm a cop. He asks why I'm following him. He asks that everytime he looks around, he sees *me*. I tell him that I have not been following him. Never seen him before until now. I then walk towards my front door. He is still outside of his El Camino, parked in the middle of the street yelling at me. I see the next door neighbor come out of his house, wonder what is happening. I reach my front door, I go inside.

A few minutes later, I hear my door bell ring, and voices by my front door. I arm myself, and I answer the front door (without opening it, just looking through the peephole, and yelling through the door). Its the neighbor saying that his friend was drunk.

But what if it was the drunk guy? What if he was pounding on my door? What if he started smashing the kitchen window, and started going in?

As you see, just answering the door with a gun doesn't mean its 1st degree.


PS... after I went inside of the house, and before the neighbor knocked, I called the police station to try and document the fact that I was approached by this guy. There was no crime committed, but I wanted to have a paper trail, just in case, something happened. Luckilly, nothing did.

THAT's not first degree, but going to your door with a shotgun, then shooting right through it at a guy with a wooden stick IS.
Let's not start defending this a*shole. He should be locked away for life. The world would be a better place without him. I don't think you could ever justify this situation.

 

[Frohickey]

Originally posted by junior
THAT's not first degree, but going to your door with a shotgun, then shooting right through it at a guy with a wooden stick IS.
Let's not start defending this a*shole. He should be locked away for life. The world would be a better place without him. I don't think you could ever justify this situation.

I'm not really defending Griffin. All I'm saying is that somehow, the prosecutor in charge does not think he's got enough proof, and at this point, I have to treat him as innocent.

With all the comments here saying Griffin is guilty if the story represented is true, then why is the prosecutor not charging him? We've got enough in here that if we were the jury, he'd be convicted. But somehow, the prosecutor is NOT charging him. There is a disconnect here.

 

[ddtlm]

I've lived by a slimeball with dogs that he would'nt control. He also happened to beat his wife and kid, I believe, but can't prove. One of his dogs died one day under the wheel of some other niegbor's truck, who knows if it was on purpose. If the slimeball had gone around with a 2x4 threatening people over that and I'd been there with a gun, that dude might have got shot. So although I'm no fan of killing dogs and killing people wielding sticks, I can see situations where it could happen.

 

[Gyroscope]

In USA, they sell you weapon easily,and then when you use your purchased product they press charges against you.


Can someone explain please?

 

[Frohickey]

Originally posted by Gyroscope
In USA, they sell you weapon easily,and then when you use your purchased product they press charges against you.

Can someone explain please?

Sell you the weapon easily? Hardly.

In all states, you have to pass a background check, run off multiple crime databases.
In all states, you have to answer 13 questions on BATF form 4473.

In some states, you have to wait 10 days before you pick up the weapon
In some states, you can only buy one handgun a month.
In some states, you have to show that you have a safe or purchase a state-approved gun lock before you pick up the weapon.

But if you use your purchased product negligently, then you should be charged. If you buy a Honda Insight, and you plow into a group of people on the sidewalk, you ought to be charged.

 

[ddtlm]

Gyroscope:

Firearms can legally be used on people in the USofA for self-defense. It is sometimes not legal to shoot people who are stealing your things but not threatening you, depends on what state your in.

 

[Backtothemac]

The only time you can use deadly force is if your life is in danger. Period. Except of course in Alabama where we have the king of the castle law.

If someone is in your house, and you want them out, and they will not leave, and you don't know them. You can kill them dead.

Said with my best redneck imitation