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Man Sprays 'Toilet-Papering' Teens With Fox Pee

Correct if I'm wrong but I believe in texas he could have shot them dead and claimed to have been threatened on his own property, therefore absolving him of criminal accountability...:rolleyes:

Personally if it got them off the property I see nothing wrong with a little fox pee...I mean, sitting around and calling the cops while they TP your house is only going to get you an apologetic cop a couple of hours later and a house covered in TP.
 
Eww. Nasty.

That is why you pick people that (A) you know; (B) you know won't really mind; and finally (C) people who won't call the police.

For example, I'm in the show choir and theatre programs at my high school, and it's practically tradition to TP people. But you pick people involved in the programs who know that it happens. That way, if you get caught, the worst that happens is you clean it up, which is 100% reasonable.

These kids did it to themselves by picking someone random, hitting him repeatedly, and that they presumably knew didn't appreciate it.

And why did they have so many kids doing it? Good lord, i can think of one time where it's even a remote possibility to have ten, and that's going to be a time when we go to a person's house while they're on vacation, and they live in the middle of nowhere where it's practically guaranteed we won't get caught.

Stupid kids.
 
These days he would have been arrested for turning the garden hose on them.

Sort of silly these days to make the arrests for assault when there is no intent to injure, just make it too wet, soapy, slimy, etc. to stay on your property.
 
Im not saying he should have done it, but seriously, it isnt too far fetched to think they could have been shot. 20 people sneaking around on someones property and apparently not leaving when you are yelled at to leave can easily be interpreted as being in danger and needing to defend yourself.

Again, not saying he should have shot them or anything. Just saying that this is a situation where very easily there could have been a couple dead kids...

I think they should consider themselves lucky to have only gotten a lil pee on themselves. And now that they have been caught, Im thinking they need some sort of community service or additional punishment, seeing as how they are repeat offenders. Just my .02.
 
I think there's a line where you can go too far in defending your property from mischief.

I don't know exactly where that line is, but this is definitely on the safe side of it.

I think the police and prosecutors in that county need to be more concerned with the gangs of vandalizing teens roaming around rather than the people that are defending themselves from them.

I predict charges will be dropped, or if the prosecutor is stupid, an acquittal.
 
how come the kids weren't charged with like trespassing or something? one of them had to have told the cops/their parents to have this guy arrested.
 
pilotError said:
Why shouldn't you be able to defend your property.

I'm sure at 50, he doesn't want to be pulling TP off his house.

I'd love to hear the teens parents defending their kids on this one.

If I was one of their parents, I'd be over there having my kid clean the place and apologize to him. Fun is fun, but they got caught. That's the chance you take.

I think the night vision goggles is a nice touch though! LOL
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i know in colorado, you can shoot people if they trespass and dont listen/have criminal intent/etc.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/government/article/0,2777,DRMN_23906_5352928,00.html
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE4DB1739F932A35755C0A966958260
 
ha, a pissed off guy caused teens to get pissed on.

couldn't stop laughing when I read this - funny :D

I would have sprayed them with somethin too, nothing wrong with that as long as you have reason…
 
mrogers said:
Good for him...but why in the HELL was he arrested and charged for shooting kids with a squirt gun on his own property!?
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My thoughts too! The guy was defending his property from the hooligans and it is not like he hurt them by spraying them with fox urine. The bottom line is that they were on his property without permission and with the intent to cause mischief. :confused:



So, is it better to be pissed off or pissed on? :D ;)
 
It wouldn't surprise me if he has to pay their dry cleaning bills or for new clothes. He will also probably have to pay for any counseling they may need to get over the psychological trauma of having been being pissed on. Any adult that does anything like this to kids that aren't theirs are unfortunately going to get slammed by the kids' parents and the courts.
 
Imagine you live in a house surrounding by farmland and for one week every year your home is the target for 50 teenagers looking to trash it. Scott Wagar spends a week, every September, on high alert. He knows come nightfall on one night that week kids from the high school near his home in Willmar will come at his property armed with eggs, toilet paper and screwdrivers and try deface it. "There are usually 30-70 kids at one time, it's a little intimidating with 30 people coming at you," Wagar said today. Every year, for the last 8 years, Wagar's house has been the target. He's called the sheriff's department and they have been able to chase the kids off a few times but this past September Wagar met the kids at his property line head on armed with a water-gun full of a little more than water. "I had one third fox urine, two thirds water in a super soaker just so they would stink bad and I just started spraying out there." The kids, Wagar said, threw eggs back at him. Wagar said the kids were about 10 feet from being on Wagar's property when Wagar says they jumped him. "One kid got behind me and put his arm around my neck choking me," Wagar said. Wagar broke free and nearly broke the kid's finger. The kids ran and dropped a cell phone along the way. The next day Wagar demanded money for damages from the cell phone's owner and when he didn't get it he said her turned the phone in to the police. On Wednesday Wagar was charged with assault, theft and disorderly conduct. No one else, was so much as ticketed. "I thought we had law and order but it does make me question it." In eight years, no teenager, even when authorities have chased them away has been ticketed for trespassing. Kandiyohi County Sheriff Dan Hartog told me today he can't ticket anyone for trespass without seeing it happen, watching the homeowner order them away, and the person then refusing. Kandiyohi County prosecutor Boyd Beccue said he does not discuss ongoing files, to do so would be improper so he could not comment to KARE 11 on Wagar's charges. The case goes back to court on January 20th. Scott Wagar faces a 90-day jail sentence and 1,000 fine for each of the three crimes he is charged with. He has entered a plea of not guilty and will be representing himself in court.
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http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=531820&catid=2

I'd be pissed if I was this guy.
 
I side with the property owner. If I knew that many vandals were coming to my land with the intent of property damage, I'd put barbed-wire at ankle height, load my paintball gun, turn on the hotwire, and charge my spotlights. Trespassers are no different that burglars. The minute one jumps me from behind and tries to choke me, I could kill them without remorse, in the act of self defense. All of those teens should serve jail time. Better yet, community service at a facility that harvests fox urine. ;)
 
mgguy said:
Any adult that does anything like this to kids that aren't theirs are unfortunately going to get slammed by the kids' parents and the courts.
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Apparently those "kids" knowingly violated several laws in an act of premeditated vandalism and assault. Letting this go unpunished sets a horrible precedent for teenagers; that trespassing and property damage are no big deal. I say they should face charges as adults.
 
It's pretty ridiculous that the kids have never been ticketed with anything. Hell, they threw eggs at him and one tried to choke him. He could have shot them in self defense as they clearly had intent to harm.
If I were him I'd take a shotgun outside and shoot at the sky to scare the s*** out of those stupid kids.
 
.Andy said:
Why on earth should you be able to assault anyone if you're not in any danger?
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He was in danger.
30 teenagers rushing him, one applied a chokehold to him, others threw eggs at him. BTW, both of the latter are considered assault.
I don't know how your laws work but I had six teens swarm the front of my store a few years back in pursuit of another one who had sought shelter.

Yes the cops were called, and no, they weren't anywhere near to responding quickly enough to prevent physical harm to either the one kid or myself. I turned on them myself after being threatened and threatened them in turn.
The one I turned on ran back out the front door before I could grab him.

I didn't escalate or make things worse, they did. Not one of them would have been in any danger had they not voluntarily placed themselves there.

By the way, a detective came by after and said I had been completely within my rights to fight back in this case.
 
Maybe I am watching too much House, but isn't some animal waste toxic to humans? especially if they are allow to infiltrate our body via mouth/eyes etc.
 
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