Maps and Parked Car

Discussion in 'iOS 10' started by TRICKorDEVICE, Jun 21, 2016.

  1. TRICKorDEVICE macrumors 6502a

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    Hi all,

    Does the feature that remembers where you parked your car work even if you don't have carplay, and if your bluetooth in your car doesn't ID itself as a car?
     
  2. Feenician macrumors 68040

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    CarPlay isn't necessary (I don't have it and it works for me) but the latter isn't clear. Certainly someone here with just a standalone Bluetooth speaker said it didn't work for them.
     
  3. Julien macrumors G3

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    It works every time I get out of my car and I don't have CarPlay. I do have BT and an Automatic plugged in and connected by BT.
     
  4. TRICKorDEVICE thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Is your Bluetooth device a stock car connection, or a third party one (is it defined as a car?)

    Thanks
     
  5. Armen macrumors 604

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    Works with my 2011 VW Touareg with stock audio system.
     
  6. thebro20 macrumors regular

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    It worked for me on the first day, but now for some reason it doesn't.
     
  7. Gjwilly macrumors 68030

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    Works with my cheap aftermarket Sony head unit. No Carplay.
     
  8. mattopotamus macrumors G4

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    Got a little sidetracked in your other thread, so I pasted it here. I think the bluetooth has to identify as a car.

    It definitely needs one or the other. I have been driving my GFs car the last 3 days, which has neither and it still shows my car parked from 3 days ago that I was using with carplay.

    I think google was using the speed you were traveling at to determine that you were in a car. Apple is using either a bluetooth connection with a car or carplay.
     
  9. Julien macrumors G3

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    Sorry, car is OEM BT and I also use an Automatic that connects by BT. So I actually have 2 BT connections to my car, 1 factory and 1 an Automatic (OBDII). Not sure if my iPhone is using one (or both) of theses are doesn't need BT.
     
  10. Feenician macrumors 68040

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    To my knowledge there is no way for Bluetooth to register as a car. It's not one of the available Bluetooth profiles. There are device id's and some extended info but afaik no "I'm a car" switch. Perhaps it's some combination of device id/manufacturer id or something. It's all speculation though.
     
  11. PurrBall macrumors 6502a

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    Mine is not recognized as a car, I use an Automatic and a GTA Car Kit for bluetooth.
     
  12. Feenician, Jun 21, 2016
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    Feenician macrumors 68040

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    So my pet theory (and it only a theory) is that iOS has a list of "blessed" access point names, device id's and/or manufacturer id's that are recognized as being a car. I say that because presumably your 3rd party kit implements Hands-Free profile, just as any car would, yet the 3rd party devices don't seem to get recognised well, if at all.

    I might be a million miles away from being right though :)

    Edit: more typos. Autocorrect plus instant scroll to the bottom bug do not make for well typed posts
     
  13. rwilliams macrumors 68040

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    There's probably a database of car stereo model numbers, and your phone "knows" when it's connected to one.
     
  14. Feenician macrumors 68040

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    That, or something similar, seems to explain the results observed at least but I'm surprised at the naïveté of that approach since Apple can't possibly keep up with head units as they're created. Perhaps some combination of device id, manufacturer id etc. but even that has severe limitations.
     
  15. thebro20 macrumors regular

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    I've tried everything and I can't get it to work for me anymore
     
  16. bigjnyc macrumors 601

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    works with both my M4 and RR both are connected to bluetooth stock and are identified as a car in my bluetooth settings screen.
     
  17. Feenician macrumors 68040

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    Can I ask where they're identified as a car?
     
  18. bigjnyc macrumors 601

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    If you go in to settings and then Bluetooth. See my screenshot. The first line is my M4 it's the car brand and a number which I assume each car has its own individual ID
     

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  19. Feenician macrumors 68040

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    I see. Thanks! :)
     
  20. AsherN macrumors 6502

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    So it needs Bluetooth? Fantastic. Seeing as I find that kind of feature when travelling. Strange city with a different car. But there is no way I'm pairing my phone with a rental car.
     
  21. Feenician macrumors 68040

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    Bluetooth or wired I believe, just as long as there's CarPlay or it otherwise recognizes your car as a car.

    Edit: actually, let me modify that. I've only seen people confirm it works wired when there's CarPlay. I don't know if it works wired without it.
     
  22. TRICKorDEVICE thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Ok, I don't have my Mac at hand to try this, but it is a crazy idea that I thought would be interesting to try.

    Someone with a third party Bluetooth connection in their car could have the iPhone forget the device. Then pair the device to your Mac. Right click on the device and change the Bluetooth device name to "Your Vehicle." Then unpair it from the Mac and repair it to the iPhone in the vehicle.

    So basically I am suggesting renaming the Bluetooth device to something the iPhone should recognize as a vehicle.

    Anyone want to try????
     
  23. AppleFan91 macrumors 65816

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    I have a 2013 Cruze, so no CarPlay. It has Bluetooth but I never connect it and it has an Automatic OBD reader. The feature has yet to work for me at all. That being said, once i get out of class, I will pair my phone via bluetooth to my phone on the way home and see if it pops up then.
     
  24. FreeState macrumors 68000

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    I don't have a stereo in my car, it was stollen. I have Automatic on it though and I get parking notifications about 50% of the time. I also drive a stock Mercedes MLK once a week and I get notifications 100% of the time (no car play).
     
  25. NeshyD macrumors regular

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    I wasn't able to get Parking location to work until I enabled "Frequent Locations" under Privacy -> Location -> System Services.

    I don't think there's a specific car identifier in the BT address; iOS 10 is just monitoring your current position (and thus your speed) when you have Frequent Locations on.

    Then I assume it learns what common BT device is connected (besides the Apple Watch of course) while moving locations and tries to give you an approximate parking location.

    Since I had Frequent Locations on I've gotten Parking notifications for every stop I made today during errands.

    My BT device is the MB C300 '15.
     

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