Marketplace price drop rules

tobefirst

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Can a mod please explain to me the Marketplace rule on "nontrivial price change?" The last two times I've submitted a post report, the moderation team deemed that no action was necessary, and after that, I can't begin to understand what would be deemed a trivial price change.

For reference, rule 11.3 of the marketplace rules states
11. Posting. Post in your thread for any of these reasons. Otherwise, wait for responses and accept that you may or may not get them.
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3. to announce a nontrivial price change (please state the old and new prices)​

In the first instance, the poster was selling an item for $32. Four days later, he dropped the price to $26. $6 on $32 seems like a nontrivial price drop. Three days later, he dropped the price to $25. A $1 drop on an item originally selling for $32 (a 3% drop), or even just on the $26 (a 4% drop), seems to me like a trivial price drop.

In the second instance, the poster was selling an item for $250. 11 days later, he drops the price by $5 to $245. A 2% drop. Again, this seems to be trivial to me, but both times, I was told it was within the rules.

Just how small does a price drop have to be, either in terms or raw dollars, or in a percentage of the original or previous prices, to be considered trivial? What do the rest of MacRumors users think?

Appreciate the help. I'm just trying to understand the rules a bit better. Thanks!
 

tobefirst

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Didn't you send in a contact message to the admins this week and received a reply on Thursday about this?
Yes, about the first instance I mentioned. Since then, I reported another which seemed to me to be against the rule, but was wrong. I'm really just trying to understand the rule.
 

maflynn

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A nontrivial price change is a judgement call, I don't believe the rules states a specific percentage that we are bound to issue a reminder and remove the post.

Also, if the small (but non-trival) price cut results in a sale, what's the harm?
 

tobefirst

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Perhaps if I had a reference point, that would help me to better understand the rule. Would it be possible for one of the mods to share an instance where this rule was invoked? Obviously I'm not looking for a link to a thread, or for anything including usernames, but just a generic instance where an anonymous post was removed because it was deemed to be trivial. Possible?
 

annk

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Perhaps if I had a reference point, that would help me to better understand the rule. Would it be possible for one of the mods to share an instance where this rule was invoked? Obviously I'm not looking for a link to a thread, or for anything including usernames, but just a generic instance where an anonymous post was removed because it was deemed to be trivial. Possible?
Giving specific examples is a grey area as far as the privacy policy is concerned, but I think the issue can be explained just as well or better with general information.

First of all, this is a judgement call; there are no hard-and-fast rules. If we notice what appears to be an insignificant price change announced in a new post, we consider the original price, the relative dollar amount of previous price drops (if any), and the current price drop. Is it for example an amount we think most people would consider significant enough and/or affect interest in the sale?

We also consider whether the item is being sold for a large amount of money or a small amount. A price drop of a few dollars on an expensive item is not significant, whereas a price drop of a few dollars on an inexpensive item might be significant. We look at context.

If users are in doubt, they're welcome to report a price drop. We're happy to take a look.
 

ZMacintosh

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part of this question I was curious about, where a user needs to post the original price and the changes, I see a lot of them removing the original price and you don't know where the change came from or what the original pricing was.
 

annk

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part of this question I was curious about, where a user needs to post the original price and the changes, I see a lot of them removing the original price and you don't know where the change came from or what the original pricing was.
I assume you're referring to this rule?

"...to announce a nontrivial price change (please state the old and new prices)"

If you see that an original price was removed and replaced with a new price without the original price being specified, you can either post in the thread to ask the OP to edit in the original price, or send a post report. That way we can remind the thread starter to include the original price as well as the change.