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Marketplace's Future

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well my issue with an external source before using the MP is that well i have never sold anything on ebay or anything online before

i feel that if i ever wanted to participate in the MP, i should be able to do so even without having a feedback from another site
 
dukebound85 said:
well my issue with an external source before using the MP is that well i have never sold anything on ebay or anything online before

i feel that if i ever wanted to participate in the MP, i should be able to do so even without having a feedback from another site
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There is a chicken and egg dilemma there -- you have to be able to sell something somewhere without feedback. But once you sold for the first time here, you could easily get Heatware feedback from the sale and be set. You can also of course get feedback on eBay, Heatware, etc, from buying things. Most people already have this kind of buyer feedback somewhere, although again, understandably, some may not.
 
maybe we should require everyone who wants to participate in the marketplace send us mods naked pictures of themselves that we will post on the internet if they fail to follow through on a transaction.

be honest and reliable or you will be revealed in all your glory to the whole world! Nothing like blackmail to keep everyone in line.
 
Doctor Q said:
Like getting your first credit card without a credit history. Somebody has to trust you, but they probably won't trust you very much.
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Yes, true. But again, it makes sense to start small -- just like you're saying -- you may not have much trust earned, but you can leverage what you have.

It says something about you if you can't be bothered to ever purchase anything on the net and get feedback, when it would cost you $5 or $10 to easily establish at least one feedback entry say at eBay or Heatware, but you're suddenly ready to be trusted with $3000 of someone's money to sell them a Mac Pro.

If you're serious about selling, you would almost invariably have bought something already that would have netted you feedback as a buyer. And when I only had buyer feedback on eBay and had never sold anything, I threw my first item down as a loss leader -- I recognized I might not get as much for it because of my lack of credentials, so I chose something small that I wanted to sell anyways and put it out there to get feedback.

I think in defense of using feedback, it's reasonable that if I'm a buyer, and I'm going to paypal you $2000 or $3000, you're going to have to do *something* that makes me trust you. Deal with it. You might find that unfair as a seller, but what do I care? I'm putting myself on the line, right? And it's for your own good as a seller -- having credentials may be a nuisance for you but it opens up the market of people willing to buy from you.

Oh, BTW, there are rather a number of people here I never want to see naked. :eek: :eek: So I vote against that idea. Or at least I don't want the pictures. :p
 
perhaps you could implement a stepped system

first have a post count/time member requirement to be eligible

then for the first 5 transactions cant have a value of over say 20 dollars to sell or buy

then next 5 under $50 and so on

just a thought as it would be less of a risk early on and would lead to being able to complete higher transactions (like establishing a higher line of credit)

only downside is that since this is a mac community, alot of people buy and sell computers which in themselves are pricey goods
 
dukebound85 said:
perhaps you could implement a stepped system

first have a post count/time member requirement to be eligible

then for the first 5 transactions cant have a value of over say 20 dollars

then next 5 under 50 and so on

just a thought
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I think you are forgetting the mods are volunteers with limited time. Why don't you suggest we go meet each seller in real life and hold their hand until the transaction is complete?
 
AmbitiousLemon said:
I think you are forgetting the mods are volunteers with limited time. Why don't you suggest we go meet each seller in real life and hold their hand until the transaction is complete?
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surely it could be coded somehow to grant access

i do realize that mods are volunteers as ive been here a while now...

didnt think offering ideas was a bad thing:cool: i mean my company does it all the time to generate ideas to solve problems
 
AmbitiousLemon said:
These changes have been discussed long before this thread. Our current mod thread on it was started in Sept 2007, and its not our first go at it.
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Oh come on, let this baby have his bottle. :p

No, but seriously, I remember your early post in this thread about how you guys had been discussing this for a while.

Is the announcement going to come soon?
 
mkrishnan said:
OTOH, I think asking us to police it as a rule would not be realistic without a large increase in the number of moderators, since unless we used some kind of vB plugin that allowed it to be a profile field that we could then require to be non-empty for marketplace posting rights (defer to Ant as to whether that's even technically possible), it would involve us manually checking every new for sale post, and we don't have the resources to do that.
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No it wouldnt, Each person wanting to be allowed to start a thread in the forum would PM a mod with a link to their feedback, it gets approved, and then they are approved to post. I don't think it would have to be done on a post by post basis.. one board i am on has a rep system, that is basically, you do something good, a user clicks something and you get a good mark do something bad/stupid, a user clicks and you get a bad mark. I don't know how hard to implement that would be though. It would be a good butthole/moron gauge also.

and, frankly, nude pics now wouldnt bother some people, but nekkid baby pictures would..

I know i'm not a big poster here, but I'm happy to help as I consider myself a member of the community, and would like to contribute more than just silly posts, however I'm not rich and famous.
 
OscarTheGrouch said:
Each person wanting to be allowed to start a thread in the forum would PM a mod with a link to their feedback
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Which mod would you send it to? Some of us take breaks from here for weeks, sometimes months at a time.

As AmbitiousLemon has already said, keep an eye out for an announcement soon... soon.
 
How reliable is feedback? With ebay at least, feedback ratings have become almost useless.

Even if there was a feasible way in which this system could be implemented, I'm not certain it would be beneficial.
 
what if the marketplace worked like you need 100 posts to sell stuff less than 50-100 dollars, 200 posts for 100-200 dollars, etc.

this way, if someone is selling something valuable, there is a less chance he/she will be a scammer since they have been around for a while and will probably have a good rep

also, maybe you can bypass the system w/ the permission of a mod

just a little idea i gots
 
nintendude said:
also, maybe you can bypass the system w/ the permission of a mod
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This suggestion has come up quite a few times and each time the answer is no because everyone will want to bypass the system so there will be lots of requests. Also if they are bypassed by a mod and then the sale falls through the mods are then somewhat implicated.
 
nintendude said:
what if the marketplace worked like you need 100 posts to sell stuff less than 50-100 dollars, 200 posts for 100-200 dollars, etc.

this way, if someone is selling something valuable, there is a less chance he/she will be a scammer since they have been around for a while and will probably have a good rep

also, maybe you can bypass the system w/ the permission of a mod

just a little idea i gots
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Like others have said, I feel your idea could possibly be counter-productive. A person could easily crank out 100 posts in a few days and the quality and usefulness of those posts would be very low. What about people who chose to read the forums instead of posting a reply to every single thread they read?

There should be a healthy balance of requirements for buyers and sellers alike. Personally, I like requirements which include both a minimum post count AND a time-limit of some sort. With this system in place, buyers and sellers are more likely to be legitimate members who are serious about completing their transactions.

And, as others have said, a feedback system could do no harm either.

Can't wait to hear the moderators' decision!
 
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