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Didnt see this during a search:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/news/phoenix-20080525b.html

NASA's Phoenix Spacecraft Lands at Martian Arctic Site
05.25.08

Radio signals received at 4:53:44 p.m. Pacific Time (7:53:44 p.m. Eastern Time) confirmed the Phoenix Mars Lander had survived its difficult final descent and touchdown 15 minutes earlier. The signals took that long to travel from Mars to Earth at the speed of light.

Mission team members at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.; Lockheed Martin Space Systems, Denver; and the University of Arizona, Tucson, cheered confirmation of the landing and eagerly awaited further information from Phoenix later tonight.

Among those in the JPL control room was NASA Administrator Michael Griffin, who noted this was the first successful Mars landing without airbags since Viking 2 in 1976.

"For the first time in 32 years, and only the third time in history, a JPL team has carried out a soft landing on Mars," Griffin said. "I couldn't be happier to be here to witness this incredible achievement."

Phoenix team members celebrate the Phoenix landing on Mars, May 25, 2008. Team members celebrate Phoenix landing on Mars.
Larger view During its 422-million-mile flight from Earth to Mars after launching on Aug. 4, 2007, Phoenix relied on electricity from solar panels during the spacecraft's cruise stage. The cruise stage was jettisoned seven minutes before the lander, encased in a protective shell, entered the Martian atmosphere. Batteries provide electricity until the lander's own pair of solar arrays spread open.

"We've passed the hardest part and we're breathing again, but we still need to see that Phoenix has opened its solar arrays and begun generating power," said JPL's Barry Goldstein, the Phoenix project manager. If all goes well, engineers will learn the status of the solar arrays between 7 and 7:30 p.m. Pacific Time (10 and 10:30 p.m. Eastern Time) from a Phoenix transmission relayed via NASA's Mars Odyssey orbiter.

The team will also be watching for the Sunday night transmission to confirm that masts for the stereo camera and the weather station have swung to their vertical positions.

"What a thrilling landing! But the team is waiting impatiently for the next set of signals that will verify a healthy spacecraft," said Peter Smith of the University of Arizona, principal investigator for the Phoenix mission. "I can hardly contain my enthusiasm. The first landed images of the Martian polar terrain will set the stage for our mission."

Another critical deployment will be the first use of the 7.7-foot-long robotic arm on Phoenix, which will not be attempted for at least two days. Researchers will use the arm during future weeks to get samples of soil and ice into laboratory instruments on the lander deck.

The signal confirming that Phoenix had survived touchdown was relayed via Mars Odyssey and received on Earth at the Goldstone, Calif., antenna station of NASA's Deep Space Network.

Phoenix uses hardware from a spacecraft built for a 2001 launch that was canceled in response to the loss of a similar Mars spacecraft during a 1999 landing attempt. Researchers who proposed the Phoenix mission in 2002 saw the unused spacecraft as a resource for pursuing a new science opportunity. Earlier in 2002, Mars Odyssey discovered that plentiful water ice lies just beneath the surface throughout much of high-latitude Mars. NASA chose the Phoenix proposal over 24 other proposals to become the first endeavor in the Mars Scout program of competitively selected missions.

The Phoenix mission is led by Smith at the University of Arizona with project management at JPL and development partnership at Lockheed Martin, Denver. International contributions come from the Canadian Space Agency; the University of Neuchatel, Switzerland; the universities of Copenhagen and Aarhus, Denmark; Max Planck Institute, Germany; and the Finnish Meteorological Institute.

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How cool is that! Millions of miles away, and we have a shot of it landing. :D


http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/main/index.html
 
So cool! The space program is one of the few things on which our taxes are being well spent. The resulting technologies alone make it well worth it. Can't wait to more pics and discoveries.
 
Now, lets seem them justify the taxes being used for this endeavor and get something useful. :confused:

Gee for $427M we should throw them a tickertape parade considering they got the thing down there without wrapping it up in bouncing balloons for a change, and it phoned home right away, never even lost the signal while descending, posed for pics by one of the orbiters on the way down... And so many of the other tries had either fried or crashed. I say kudos to Univ of Arizona, Lockheed Martin, NASA-JPL, did I leave anyone out? Wel... us, for supporting it.

What are we spending in Iraq now as "emergency appropriations" again? Per month? Not to jack this thread but it's nuts that the cost of Iraq stays so background to us in the adult generations that have allowed this conflict to unfold as it has. At least with Vietnam and the tax surcharge we knew what to grumble about, it was on our paystub every week. Pay as you go, duh.

Now if they'd put the little Phoenix lander on my paystub in the tax takeout column, I'd smile at paying my share. There's around 300 million of us, so 427 / 300 is not too big a hit anyway. Two pay cycles and it's paid for!
 
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How cool is that! Millions of miles away, and we have a shot of it landing. :D

That's one of the coolest and most significant photos ever taken. Think about it.

A spacecraft built by humans orbiting another planet taking a picture of another spacecraft we built landing on that planet.

More stuff about it here:
http://digg.com/space/MRO_captures_pic_of_Phoenix_Lander_DURING_LANDING

Also, another amazing picture taken by the MRO of Opportunity
http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2006/10/06/best-mars-picture-evah/
 
Haven't even gotten past the 1st paragraph yet. Is this right?

15 minutes earlier. The signals took that long to travel from Mars to Earth at the speed of light.

It takes 15 minutes for light to travel from Earth to Mars? 300,000,000 km/s * 900 seconds (15 minutes) = 270 million km.

What are we spending in Iraq now as "emergency appropriations" again? Per month?

Yeah, and I love how people complain about the cost of these missions. That's how much you Americans spend in an afternoon in Iraq. :p This is far more interesting.
 
The space program is THE only good use of taxes (barring social things that "the people" need) and it was, and still is, always in flux in terms of financing its missions.

And why?

So we can stay here on Earth forever? WTF for?

Bill Hicks had the right idea:

And I feel it's my duty to pass on information at all times, so that we can all learn, evolve, and get the **** off this planet.

Humans need to move on, proliferate among the stars...and honestly, why havent we gone further yet? Oh, because we spend money on stuff that keeps us grounded and stuck here... :confused:
 
Humans need to move on, proliferate among the stars...and honestly, why havent we gone further yet? Oh, because we spend money on stuff that keeps us grounded and stuck here... :confused:

Considering we exist the Universal equivalent of a fruit fly, this might prove somewhat difficult.

Let's not work so hard making this planet disposable, just in case.
 
Well, personally, I just think the timing is fabulous. Right now I'm taking Astronomy (which might change once we get midterm grades back). Of course, I tend to think knowing how the universe around us works is a good thing. I can't wait to watch this unfold.
 
Now, lets seem them justify the taxes being used for this endeavor and get something useful. :confused:

The fact that most new advances in technology over the past 60 years have been the sole product of missions like these. I think that's enough said. Stop complaining the next time you have to have any medical work done that requires materials, knowledge, or methods that were in some way related to the US space program.

I mean apart from THAT... Why not? isn't it a part of our human nature to be curious about and pursue a quest to understand our universe? What if we had never been curious about whether the world really was flat or if it was round?
 
I mean apart from THAT... Why not? isn't it a part of our human nature to be curious about and pursue a quest to understand our universe? What if we had never been curious about whether the world really was flat or if it was round?

Oh, dear. I suddenly envisioned learning all those epicycles that were used prior to the elliptical theory. That would bite to have to remember that for every Astronomy test. Geocentric model, no thanks.
 
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