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Am I the only one that's noticing that this thread is full of people talking about the good ol' days?

And there are other ways of keeping kids healthier. Justna few off the top of my head: Gym class every year, and maybe charge for other drinks and give water with every meal. As of now I have to pay $1.25 to get a bottle of water instead of a free milk.

And another thing, why not have healthy meals cheaper and the junk food more expensive? Then the parents would be inclined to have their kids eats healthy. Then the schools wouldn't be forcing the kids to eat certain food.
Why not ban school buses and let the kids walk.

Hell, why not just teach outside in the summer. Have the kids sweat a few pounds off. Make them run laps for every wrong answer they give.
 
When will our leaders learn that bans rarely, if ever, achieve the desired results. We should ban bans.
 
I think it's not the schools' business what parents feed their kids.

well in this case they are not stopping the parents from deciding what to feed their kids. Just removing the option to buy that crap from the school. The students could easily bring in the sweets and sugar from home. The state is not banning that. it is banning the school from selling it.

Based on how it is written I fully agree with how the law goes. It forces schools to provide healthy food for kids and not to sell the unhealthy crap. If parents/kids want that stuff they have to bring it from home. It is not exactly that hard.
I know while I was in school I brought my lunch almost every day. I honestly hated the crap the school sold. most of it was very unhealthy and on top of that tasted pretty bad. Stuff from home was both healthier and tasted a hell of a lot better.
It was normally a sandwich, bag of chips, desert and brisk ice tea to drink. It both tasted better and was healthier than the school.

Desert often times was cookies my dad made from scratch. not the store bought crap.

It is crystal clear most people have not bothered to read past the head lines. Read the article and you will see the truth in it. This is just one of the many things schools should do to attack obesity. A single approach will not work. It has to be a multipron attack. Another requirement is require gym every year in HS. Not this 1.5 credits that it seems to be now (and I know in Texas it is even reduced more. I know in HS I never went to gym. My gym credits came from marching band and let me tell you it is not really that much work.
 
Why not ban school buses and let the kids walk.

You bring up a good point. I graduated from highschool 40 years ago. We walked everywhere. No cell phones, no electronic gadgets. No first person shooters... no computer games... no computers. For entertainment we played sports. We hung out with our friends and talked. We were constantly moving.
 
we had so many different types of pies:

Meat Pie
Steak Pie
Beef, Tomato and Cheese Pie
Beef, Cheese and Bacon
Potato Pie
Vegetarian Pie
Chicken and Leek Pie
Satay Chicken Pie
Thai Chicken Pie

Not being Aussie, I've never experienced the cuisine, so I admit my frame of reference is limited. That said: If you can have beef/steak/chicken pie and call them such, what is a meat pie? Aren't all of the aforementioned also meat pie? :confused:
 
^^^No, they're not educating children to eat unhealthy foods by having vending machines.

In fact, the politicians decided that educating children doesn't work, so just give them no choice at school. :p


If you want your kids to have unprocessed food, have your kids bring a sandwich made at home. That's what I did, and I didn't grow up 30 years ago. People can still do that today. ;) Have them get more exercise, move around more often, etc. Yes, they could sit around playing FPSs on XBox all day, but parents should still be calling the shots, not the kids. And continuing education on nutrition will work. Giving them a 4 month class on nutrition once in high school clearly doesn't seem to work, so start educating/nagging from an early age.

My mum limited me to 3 hours of games per day during summer breaks. It sounds like a lot of time, but I could have played for 9. :p
 
When will our leaders learn that bans rarely, if ever, achieve the desired results. We should ban bans.

So, the status quo then?? ;)

Unfortunately, such a ban would be unlikely to achieve the desired results...

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EDIT: Sorry, the one on the left would be me. :eek:
 
So if this measure sticks in public schools, some years down the road come college, the Freshman 15 will suddenly become the Freshman 45. ;)
 
well in this case they are not stopping the parents from deciding what to feed their kids. Just removing the option to buy that crap from the school. The students could easily bring in the sweets and sugar from home. The state is not banning that. it is banning the school from selling it.

Based on how it is written I fully agree with how the law goes. It forces schools to provide healthy food for kids and not to sell the unhealthy crap. If parents/kids want that stuff they have to bring it from home. It is not exactly that hard.
I know while I was in school I brought my lunch almost every day. I honestly hated the crap the school sold. most of it was very unhealthy and on top of that tasted pretty bad. Stuff from home was both healthier and tasted a hell of a lot better.
It was normally a sandwich, bag of chips, desert and brisk ice tea to drink. It both tasted better and was healthier than the school.

Desert often times was cookies my dad made from scratch. not the store bought crap.

It is crystal clear most people have not bothered to read past the head lines. Read the article and you will see the truth in it. This is just one of the many things schools should do to attack obesity. A single approach will not work. It has to be a multipron attack. Another requirement is require gym every year in HS. Not this 1.5 credits that it seems to be now (and I know in Texas it is even reduced more. I know in HS I never went to gym. My gym credits came from marching band and let me tell you it is not really that much work.

I read the article. It is jus the same food fad nonsense that has been going on for years. Even the junkiest of junk food is not going to make kids fat by itself. You have to have a lot of bad habits. On the other hand, a lot of the supposed alternatives are so blandly prepared, or are so unappetizing that it is understandable why kids rebel.

I also find it comical that often parents want their kids to eat food that they themselves would never touch, because it was boring or crappy tasting.

I would love to see a school district experiment with providing MREs to kids. These are the "Meals Ready to Eat" provided by the military and are nutritionally complete. I understand that French and Belgium MREs are particularly tasty, and American MREs quite good.
 
well in this case they are not stopping the parents from deciding what to feed their kids. Just removing the option to buy that crap from the school. The students could easily bring in the sweets and sugar from home. The state is not banning that. it is banning the school from selling it.

Based on how it is written I fully agree with how the law goes. It forces schools to provide healthy food for kids and not to sell the unhealthy crap. If parents/kids want that stuff they have to bring it from home. It is not exactly that hard.
I know while I was in school I brought my lunch almost every day. I honestly hated the crap the school sold. most of it was very unhealthy and on top of that tasted pretty bad. Stuff from home was both healthier and tasted a hell of a lot better.
It was normally a sandwich, bag of chips, desert and brisk ice tea to drink. It both tasted better and was healthier than the school.

Desert often times was cookies my dad made from scratch. not the store bought crap.

It is crystal clear most people have not bothered to read past the head lines. Read the article and you will see the truth in it. This is just one of the many things schools should do to attack obesity. A single approach will not work. It has to be a multipron attack. Another requirement is require gym every year in HS. Not this 1.5 credits that it seems to be now (and I know in Texas it is even reduced more. I know in HS I never went to gym. My gym credits came from marching band and let me tell you it is not really that much work.

THIS.

it's obvious people complaining didn't read the article (or even the title, since it specifies "snacks".
you can still bring whatever you want from home. this actually INCREASES the parents' control on what the kids eat, because the kids can't just buy themselves junk food from the machines.
All the requirements seems very reasonable

-no soda in the vending machines;no sugary drinks drinks, only 100% juice, or low-fat unsweetened milk.
-free water.
-no chips
-must offer fruit and veggies

no arguments there

the only part i don't fully agree is requirement for whole grain bread. Some white breads are perfectly fine. just avoid the wonderbread and similar crap
 
THIS.
-no soda in the vending machines;no sugary drinks drinks, only 100% juice, or low-fat unsweetened milk.
-free water.
-no chips
-must offer fruit and veggies

no arguments there

the only part i don't fully agree is requirement for whole grain bread. Some white breads are perfectly fine. just avoid the wonderbread and similar crap
From a caloric standpoint, fruit juice can be just as bad as soda, even the no-sugar-added kind. They're both sugar-laden liquids, just one is "natural" so it's perceived as "better". 12 oz. of Coke is about 150 calories, 12 oz. of orange juice is 165 (according to the bottle in my fridge). Still, it's best to get one's fruits in solid form, as with juice you strip out all the fiber and whatnot that makes you feel full.

I sort of get the free water requirement, but did something happen to water fountains since I was in school 20 years ago?
 
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