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Chappers said:
The black bit is the smoke (obviously) and a shot of the smoke over London

I definitely saw it when I went out earlier this afternoon.

It may have been completely psychosomatic but it almost seemed that I could almost smell an oily smoky smell in the air... but that could also have been an impending sign of an impending mental breakdown.

That second photo looks like it's been taken from the top of the London Eye.
 
5 live say they aren't tackling it at all, until they know they have enough foam to fully fight it. Could not be till late tonight.
 
Oh my, I've only just heard about this. :eek: :(

How exactly did this happen? Some idiot smoking a cigarette?
 
EGT said:
How exactly did this happen? Some idiot smoking a cigarette?
I bloody well hope not – that sort of behaviour is frowned upon at such places and quite rightly so... :p

The cause of the explosion is currently unknown, although the authorities are stressing it appears to be an accident rather than anything malicious. We should get a clearer picture of what actually happened over the next few days.
 
Counterfit said:
Thankfully it isn't explosive like gasoline.

This is a slight silver lining,,, but doesn't aviation fuel burn hotter?

I'm sure this is going to be very expensive for the fuel company involved - but more important the folks that live near by will feel the real cost.
 
That must have been one truly awesome explosion. It'll be interesting to see what the investigation will tell us.
 
Blue Velvet said:
It may have been completely psychosomatic but it almost seemed that I could almost smell an oily smoky smell in the air... but that could also have been an impending sign of an impending mental breakdown.

No, I'm sure it wasn't a mental breakdown, Blue! I went out last night to meet some friends and it was incredibly foggy in Bath, you couldn't see anything. Then on the way home the air stank of fuel. It was a bit spooky and apocalyptic, what with the fog as well. :eek:
 
I wonder what effect this will have on the environment, both short term and long term. What will it do to the oil prices? 260 million litres of fuel is involved. Will there be fuel shortage?

Or will there be little effect in the long term? Has anyone seen any statements on this?
 
gekko513 said:
I wonder what effect this will have on the environment, both short term and long term. What will it do to the oil prices? 260 million litres of fuel is involved. Will there be fuel shortage?

Or will there be little effect in the long term? Has anyone seen any statements on this?

It's the 5th largest depot in the country, and it's really only a staging area not a refinery.

They supply fuel to Heathrow via a pipeline, but Heathrow say the have 48 hours supply and alternative plans.

This shouldn't affect either the price or the availability of fuel at all, the tankers will merely have to go somewhere else to get the stuff.

As for the idiots who were out panic-buying petrol yesterday.... It's the panic buying that causes fuel shortages...:rolleyes:
 
Lau said:
I went out last night to meet some friends and it was incredibly foggy in Bath, you couldn't see anything. Then on the way home the air stank of fuel. It

Fuel or alcohol? ;)

I thought I could smell smoke when I spotted the clouds yesterday afternoon and thought I was going mad. Then I spotted a nearby house adding to the smoke with a bonfire... :rolleyes:
 
gekko513 said:
I wonder what effect this will have on the environment,

Luckily, it was refined product not crude product, so it actually burns fairly cleanly. The main environmental concerns are carbon particulates (think smoke inhilation), hydrocarbons, and carbon monoxide release.

The main health risk is currently to Humans and animals who suffer from breathing complaints such as Asthema and Emphysema. In rare or extreme circumstances, it can trigger chest infections and sore eyes.

Longer-term risks include contamination of the food chain as the toxins are washed out of the atmosphere as "black rain", contaminating grazing grass (potentially stopping or contaminating milk and meat supplies) and crops.

The other risks concern the use of the foam that firefighters are using on the fire and unburned fuel seeping into the ground, water courses and contaminating water supplies. The emergency services and environmental agency are working hard to minimise these risks.

What will it do to the oil prices? 260 million litres of fuel is involved. Will there be fuel shortage?

The fuel sounds like a lot, but it isn't really. It equates to about 7% of the fuel store (the site is the 5th largest in the country, but there are 43 other similar sites - this site mainly supplied Hertfordshire, Buckinghamshire and one other neighbouring county (but I can't recall which one).

There is enough spare capacity in the system to easily make up for the 'missing' 7%. The main problem is one of logistics - getting the 400-odd lorries that normally visit this site each day to collect from various alternative sites instead.

There won't be a fuel shortage as long as consumers don't panic-buy petrol.
 
aquajet said:
It'll be interesting to see what the investigation will tell us.

Probably not much. The initial explosion seems to have been a single tank. The fire then rapidly spread causing other tanks to expolde. I believe that there are 26 tanks on the site and as of this morning, only 6 were intact.

Anyone that was too badly injured to escape the site probably won't be found for many days (if at all) - although I haven't heard any reports of missing persons.

Because the fire is much bigger now than immediately after the first explosion and because the heat is so intense, it may be very difficult to determine the cause from forensics - eye-witness reports and video footage are likely to be crucial.
 
About 4 years ago there was a fire at a place that rented out propane tanks. When one of the big tanks went up it was like somebody dropped a bomb - I heard it 4 miles away.

I like the pictures in this thread - surreal isn't it, a nice sunset interrupted by a gargantuan blaze.
 
Been murky here in north-west Kent. Everything smelt a bit weird last night... a bit like Bonfire Night.

We've seen spectacular sunrises and sunsets due to the suspended particles...
 
Police said the ferocity of the blaze would make it extremely hard for forensic experts to find out its exact cause, but saw no indication of foul play. Chief Constable Frank Whiteley said eye witness accounts -- and closed-circuit television footage -- would be key to determining what sparked the chain reaction.

The series of explosions on Sunday came four days after an al Qaeda videotape appeared on the Internet calling for attacks on facilities carrying oil -- but officials drew no link.

Its quite surreal - and why is there always this need to point a finger to terrorism? I do hope they find out what happened, although its going to be a long time before they're going to be able to walk around the site. That thing is huge.

D
 
CelticBhoy said:
Don't worry lads, it happened somewhere in Engerland, so it doesn't really matter.

yeah, erm....there are some 40-50 million people who live in england who may think otherwise, pal:)

and if your going to Say things like that, can you please Spell Correctly?

We dont go on about your rubbish weather and your silly mounains, do we? :D and im sure you wouldnt like it if your scottish electric nuclear power stations blew up now would you? (also :D)
 
macOSX-tastic said:
and if your going to Say things like that, can you please Spell Correctly?

We dont go on about your rubbish weather and your silly mounains, do we? :D and im sure you wouldnt like it if your scottish electric nuclear power stations blew up now would you?

I'm assuming the spelling errors here are supposed to be ironic? :rolleyes:

CelticBhoy, I guess a smiley might have been in order since you were joking. At least, I think you were! :eek:

I was relieved that it wasn't wet today though. The idea of black rain falling just didn't hold any appeal although I suppose it might have made for some interesting pictures.
 
Applespider said:
I was relieved that it wasn't wet today though. The idea of black rain falling just didn't hold any appeal although I suppose it might have made for some interesting pictures.
Hold on to your brollys, they're saying that's still to come! :eek: :(
 
Applespider said:
I'm assuming the spelling errors here are supposed to be ironic? :rolleyes:

CelticBhoy, I guess a smiley might have been in order since you were joking. At least, I think you were! :eek:

I was relieved that it wasn't wet today though. The idea of black rain falling just didn't hold any appeal although I suppose it might have made for some interesting pictures.


yep, ironic spelling, as per the chant of football fans.

A smiley would have been in order ! I wouldn't have posted in such a manner if there had been fatalities.

erm, a nuclear power station blowing up here would also affect Loughborough as well, wouldn't it. And it's spelt 'silly mounTains' !!

As for black rain, we get it up here all the time with our oil refineries !

back to me bed
 
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