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...what if an employee had a meeting on the opposite side of the circular structure?
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I am the nobody other than yourself...anyway as Manu Chao said there's a big chance that was filmed on friday evening. This is the kind of stuff you don't want to keep for yourself more than a couple of hours

nah.. that's not friday after work.. you can tell by the shadows that it's earlier in the day.. and this time of year, it's dark outside, or pretty close to it when people get off work ;)
 
This is a morbid thought, but what happens if someone (a disgruntled employee, a criminal, etc) throws a brick at the window and smashes it? Does that mean they have to wait months to get a replacement from Germany?
I worked in an office with that problem in the 80's. Massive glass panels that cost $35,000 each (in today's money) and took months to ship from Italy.

The problem wasn't breakage, however. The problem was the double-glazing seals breaking down and condensation entering the panels.
 
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This has always intrigued me: what if an employee had a meeting on the opposite side of the circular structure? Does the employee actually have to go to the ground floor, walk to the opposite side and then go to wherever the meeting is located on that side of the building? It doesn't seem like the structure will include bridges that connect one side of the building to the opposite side...

Sorry for my stupid question, if this question has been asked before.

They press a button which keeps them where they are on Earth and causes the building to rotate.
 
nah.. that's not friday after work.. you can tell by the shadows that it's earlier in the day.. and this time of year, it's dark outside, or pretty close to it when people get off work ;)
Yes, the sun is coming roughly from south-southwest, meaning maybe is was about 1 PM when the video was shot. So there goes my Friday evening theory out of the window. But no workers at 1 PM thus indicates a weekend or other holiday.
 
Yes, the sun is coming roughly from south-southwest, meaning maybe is was about 1 PM when the video was shot. So there goes my Friday evening theory out of the window. But no workers at 1 PM thus indicates a weekend or other holiday.
even on a weekend with a project this size, there are going to be crews out there working.. that's why i guessed it was shot on Jan 1 (new years day = national holiday in u.s. )..

idk, i'm about 99.9% positive we could easily find out what day this was shot on by posting the question on the youtube video.. but hey, where's the fun in doing it that way? :D
 
even on a weekend with a project this size, there are going to be crews out there working.. that's why i guessed it was shot on Jan 1 (new years day = national holiday in u.s. )..

idk, i'm about 99.9% positive we could easily find out what day this was shot on by posting the question on the youtube video.. but hey, where's the fun in doing it that way? :D
Macrumors has posted probably two dozens of those videos over the last two years or so. As much as I remember they all or almost all had no workers in them. And they very often were Friday evening postings (but that could also be the time when Macrumors staff turn their attention to those sort of things).
 
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How do you get the construction equipment out from inside the ring? Like... it's an unbroken ring of building that is 50 feet high... it seems like it'll be difficult to get the larger machines out now.

You don't get them out, you repurpose them as HVAC for the campus and hire their operators as maintenance people.

/diggerdan
 
Easy to understand:

Form over function :)
This is a very inefficient shape for a building for people to get to all areas, and why people don't use this type of shape.

I'm not saying it's not nice/pretty/cool etc. I like it.
But I am aware it's poor from a functional standpoint.

A bit like an iMac, looks nice, but you have to compromise with it as it suffers from being the best and most functional it can be due to the design.

Form over function. It's probably what Apple is most known for.

unroll the circle into a rectangle then walk from one end to the other.. that's going to be twice as far as any distance you'd need to walk in a circular building.

people don't build many curved buildings because the costs skyrocket when compared to linear construction.

fwiw, any time someone at this forum uses the term 'form over function' as a dig at apple, it's pretty much guaranteed to be not so valid a statement. srry
 
unroll the circle into a rectangle then walk from one end to the other.. that's going to be twice as far as any distance you'd need to walk in a circular building.

people don't build many curved buildings because the costs skyrocket when compared to linear construction.

fwiw, any time someone at this forum uses the term 'form over function' as a dig at apple, it's pretty much guaranteed to be not so valid a statement. srry

Nope, the same amount of floorspace would all be much close to get to without a hole in the middle!
You would not unroll it and make a long sausage building! lol
Silly!
 
Nope, the same amount of floorspace would all be much close to get to without a hole in the middle!
You would not unroll it and make a long sausage building! lol
Silly!

who wouldn't unroll it to make a long sausage? you? ok.. not me.

the design you're talking about, to make a square and cram everything into the middle?
well, that eliminates the possibility for nearly all employees working in the building to have a window view / natural light..
maybe that's not important to you so you'll deem it 'silly'.. but that doesn't mean it's not important to others.
 
You mean all those shapes 99.9% of all other offices in the entire world use?

Again, I'm not saying this is not nice visually and stylistically
It's just inefficient a poor use of the land space that's all.

I realise this is more a statement or course than a just for serious business structure.
 
You mean all those shapes 99.9% of all other offices in the entire world use?

probably even more than 99.9%..
just realize the vast majority of office structures aren't shaped the way they are because they've been deemed optimum design.. they're they way because they're cheap(est) to build and don't require much imagination from the designers.

to say 'apple should of just made it the way we're familiar with' isn't saying much.. most people probably feel that way..

but hey, if all people felt that way, we'd still be living in caves. ;)


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Sometimes, Practical and Pretty simply cannot be done.
You design the very best tool to be the perfect tool for the function and it looks the way it has to look to do that task.
iMacs are a poor design for a computer.
They run hot, do not allow for expansion in the future, they cannot be fitted with good performing parts due to heat etc.
A better design is I'm afraid a box. It's a tool to perform a function on a screen.
That's not to say an iMac does not look funky, cool, slim etc.
But I accept it's compromised as a device for the sake of style.
 
This has always intrigued me: what if an employee had a meeting on the opposite side of the circular structure? Does the employee actually have to go to the ground floor, walk to the opposite side and then go to wherever the meeting is located on that side of the building? It doesn't seem like the structure will include bridges that connect one side of the building to the opposite side...

Sorry for my stupid question, if this question has been asked before.

So after reading all of the replies to my earnest question (sarcastic or not), is this the conclusion I am left with:

Apple designed the UFO structure to promote laziness OVER cross-division collaboration? This is the first I am hearing of Apple doing EXACTLY the opposite of what a new workspace is designed to do....

Really!?!?
 
This is a morbid thought, but what happens if someone (a disgruntled employee, a criminal, etc) throws a brick at the window and smashes it? Does that mean they have to wait months to get a replacement from Germany?
Structural glazing is very very strong to be in such large panes of glass. Just like the structural glass uses in glass stairs at Apple stores...
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This has always intrigued me: what if an employee had a meeting on the opposite side of the circular structure? Does the employee actually have to go to the ground floor, walk to the opposite side and then go to wherever the meeting is located on that side of the building? It doesn't seem like the structure will include bridges that connect one side of the building to the opposite side...

Sorry for my stupid question, if this question has been asked before.

Look at the renderings. Center is a large round garden that they can criss cross in the beautiful southern california weather to go to a meeting.
 
You mean all those shapes 99.9% of all other offices in the entire world use?

Again, I'm not saying this is not nice visually and stylistically
It's just inefficient a poor use of the land space that's all.
Define inefficient in regard to land use. Do you mean they could have created more office space on the plot of land? If that is what you mean than you are missing the point which was to create office space with a lot of nature in between.
 
This has always intrigued me: what if an employee had a meeting on the opposite side of the circular structure? Does the employee actually have to go to the ground floor, walk to the opposite side and then go to wherever the meeting is located on that side of the building?......
Probably still quicker than going around the circle, however I suspect the dept locations will be most carefully planned out for maximum efficiency in that regard. And of course a little (AppleWatch-prompted) exercise will also do the lucky Campus2 employees a world of good.
 
Define inefficient in regard to land use. Do you mean they could have created more office space on the plot of land? If that is what you mean than you are missing the point which was to create office space with a lot of nature in between.

Well, I think that myself it looks like typical suburbia, so I'm not sure I'll applaud their design.... Better than what was there before (which looked like an industrial park), but that's not saying much.

This big building in the middle of a wide expanse is a bit corbusier like, except in his case he may have paved the surroundings...

Maybe I'm a bit harsh, when I see it in person when it is finished, I'll do a final assessment.
 
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So after reading all of the replies to my earnest question (sarcastic or not), is this the conclusion I am left with:

Apple designed the UFO structure to promote laziness OVER cross-division collaboration? This is the first I am hearing of Apple doing EXACTLY the opposite of what a new workspace is designed to do....

Really!?!?

Departments/project team that work together will be close together.
They can even move people around to fit the projects their working on.
Others are still closer to walking to your car and having to drive to another campus.

If your staying on the same floor, you can reach either sides in around 2000 feet (that's the maximum distance). That's a 7 minute 3 mph walk at most for the people the farthest you can reach while staying inside the building.

If you're going to another floor, or destination and origin are close to a stairwell,
It's a relatively short walk down stairs and then across. 1100 feet across.
By strategic placement of stairwells near origin and destination points, for most common long distance resources needs (probably for public meeting spaces, cafeteria, gym, HR, etc), they can cut the max distance to probably no more than 4-5 minutes when doing a 3 mph walk.

Yes, California has almost no rain (a few weeks a year) and the temperature is always nice. I lived there long enough to know that.

Not sure where you get the laziness thing from, walking around work for engineers is not exactly where they should get their exercise.... The alternative is short walk, drive, short walk... How is that better?
 
Maybe I'm a bit harsh, when I see it in person when it is finished, I'll do a final assessment.
heh, well when that day comes, you won't be looking at it from a birds eye view such as these drone videos or plans show.. i imagine you'll have a much different feel when you're on site.
(you might not like it still.. just that if you don't, you will probably not like it based on a different set criteria than your opinion is based on currently)
 
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