Mavericks and older software

Discussion in 'OS X Mavericks (10.9)' started by jediracer, Mar 3, 2014.

  1. jediracer macrumors newbie

    Nov 7, 2005
    I have an older macbook running 10.5.8. Looking to make the leap and buy a new macbook, and (hopefully) migrate all my software over. I have a question about some older programs I have, such as Adobe Creative Suite 2 and Office for Mac 2004. Will I be able to bring these programs and associated files over form my old computer to a new one with Mavericks and be able to run everything okay?
  2. Fishrrman macrumors G5


    Feb 20, 2009
    This is only a -guess-, but -- you probably won't be able to use those older versions.

    The date -- 2004 -- suggests that these are PowerPC based apps (as distinguished from being "Intel code only" or "universal binary").

    Does 10.5.8 have Spotlight (I can't remember!)
    If so, you need Spotlight running to do this next trick
    Open System Profiler and click the "Applications" line in the lower left
    In the upper right, all your applications should be listed
    Above the list, there should appear a "Kind" category. Click it
    This should sort the applications "by kind".
    There are three categories listed by their code:
    1. PowerPC
    2. Universal binary
    3. Intel

    To run on Mavericks, they must be either Univeral Binary or Intel-only. PowerPC based apps won't run.

    In that case, if you upgrade to Mavericks (there may even be a question as to whether you can do that), you'll probably need to update the software.

    Many people are put off by Adobe's current "pay by the month" scheme to use their apps. Could you live with that?
  3. FreakinEurekan macrumors 68040


    Sep 8, 2011
    Eureka Springs, Arkansas
    Mavericks won't even do a migration from 10.5 - it'll require a 10.6 machine or backup to use the migration assistant. So you're looking at a manual migration anyway.

    Definitely neither of those apps will run under Mavericks - PPC app support ended after 10.6 Snow Leopard.

    Office 2004 is PPC. Your documents will work in Office 2008 or 2011, or you can use the Apple iWork suite (which will read Word '97 and later and Excel '97 and later files)

    Adobe CS2 is also PPC so also will not run.
  4. jediracer thread starter macrumors newbie

    Nov 7, 2005
    Not sure what "kind" my applications are, I will have to check that later; but my MacBook is 13-inch 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo running 10.5.8 Leopard. (The Office 2004 was purchased in about 2009, at the time it was the only Office version.)

    I don't really want to upgrade my current machine to Mavericks -- I want to buy a new Macbook and migrate the contents of my current one the the new.

    BUT, it's sounding like it might not be possible to run my current MS Office 2004 and Adobe CS2 (?) (both expensive programs that I prefer not to have to purchase again).

    I don't make my living or anything as a designer (if so I probably would upgrade from CS2), so I'm not really interested in a pay by month subscription service, but I really do need these programs.


    Damn. I sort of figured as much.

    Thanks for the info.
  5. The Economist macrumors 6502

    The Economist

    Apr 4, 2011
    Don't forget that you get the full iWork suite for free with a new Mac. It's an OK Office replacement unless you are an advanced Office user.
  6. jediracer thread starter macrumors newbie

    Nov 7, 2005
    If I take the plunge and buy a new macbook and Adobe CS5 (or 6 or whatever is the latest), will my files from CS2 still work on the new machine/software?
  7. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

    T'hain Esh Kelch

    Aug 5, 2001
    Yes, your old files will work just fine with modern versions of the applications. You can always try and get a used and slightly older version of Adobe Photoshop. They are usually somewhat cheap, and can run on your new machine.
  8. tywebb13, Mar 7, 2014
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2014

    tywebb13 macrumors 68020

    Apr 21, 2012
    You can still run ppc apps on an intel mac with mavericks.

    I have snow leopard server in parallels and have been able to run a lot of old ppc apps in this virtual machine running in lion, mountain lion and mavericks.

    I haven't tested cs2 or office 2004, but I'm pretty sure they will work too like this. If not, you can do the same with leopard server too, but I think snow leopard server is better.

    No need to upgrade your apps if you run them like this.

    I think snow leopard server is pretty cool. It's the only server version of OS X I use.

    For even older apps (like Mac OS 7, 8 and 9 apps) I use sheepshaver to run Mac OS 9.0.4 on an intel mac.

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