Mavericks install - slow right-click menus?

[ls1dreams]

Hi,

I just installed Mavericks, and am generally happy. Haven't had any major problems, except for these two:

1. Swipe gestures no longer work in finder (this is noted in many threads already)

2. One I haven't seen mentioned: When I use a two-finger tap (similar to right click) on a file or link/bookmark/etc, there is a noticable delay until the menu appears. By my stopwatch it's approximately 0.3-0.4 seconds. I booted into 10.6.8 on my other drive for comparison, and it's definitely instantaneous, so this is not a mental thing.

I remember some time ago changing an animation speed to 0.1 in snow leopard to increase animation times, but can't find what I did. Not sure if it's related to this or not.

Any suggestion? Maybe there's another terminal command I can run to update the animation/transition speed for that?

This delay is making Mavericks feel really unresponsive to me and driving me crazy, almost like a really old machine that can't keep up.

 

[ls1dreams]

For windows users, this is sort of the equivalent of "menushowdelay" in the registry.

 

[KoolAid-Drink]

Strange, mine works just fine and shows up in less than a second. No delay at all whatsoever.

Try rebooting to the Recovery Partition (restart, press ALT during the restart, then choose "Recovery-10.9), then run Disk Utility, Repair Permissions and Repair Disk. Reboot and see what happens?

Hi,

I just installed Mavericks, and am generally happy. Haven't had any major problems, except for these two:

1. Swipe gestures no longer work in finder (this is noted in many threads already)

2. One I haven't seen mentioned: When I use a two-finger tap (similar to right click) on a file or link/bookmark/etc, there is a noticable delay until the menu appears. By my stopwatch it's approximately 0.3-0.4 seconds. I booted into 10.6.8 on my other drive for comparison, and it's definitely instantaneous, so this is not a mental thing.

I remember some time ago changing an animation speed to 0.1 in snow leopard to increase animation times, but can't find what I did. Not sure if it's related to this or not.

Any suggestion? Maybe there's another terminal command I can run to update the animation/transition speed for that?

This delay is making Mavericks feel really unresponsive to me and driving me crazy, almost like a really old machine that can't keep up.

 

[w0lf]

Hi,

I just installed Mavericks, and am generally happy. Haven't had any major problems, except for these two:

1. Swipe gestures no longer work in finder (this is noted in many threads already)

2. One I haven't seen mentioned: When I use a two-finger tap (similar to right click) on a file or link/bookmark/etc, there is a noticable delay until the menu appears. By my stopwatch it's approximately 0.3-0.4 seconds. I booted into 10.6.8 on my other drive for comparison, and it's definitely instantaneous, so this is not a mental thing.

I remember some time ago changing an animation speed to 0.1 in snow leopard to increase animation times, but can't find what I did. Not sure if it's related to this or not.

Any suggestion? Maybe there's another terminal command I can run to update the animation/transition speed for that?

This delay is making Mavericks feel really unresponsive to me and driving me crazy, almost like a really old machine that can't keep up.

1) That's because the feature doesn't exist anymore just use the free app better touch tool.

2) I can almost guarantee it's because you have either a plugin or service for the context menu that isn't working right.

Could be anything in these locations:

/System/Library/Contextual Menu Items
/Library/Contextual Menu Items
~/Library/Contextual Menu Items

/System/Library/Services
~/Library/Services

 

[ls1dreams]

1) That's because the feature doesn't exist anymore just use the free app better touch tool.

2) I can almost guarantee it's because you have either a plugin or service for the context menu that isn't working right.

Could be anything in these locations:

/System/Library/Contextual Menu Items
/Library/Contextual Menu Items
~/Library/Contextual Menu Items

/System/Library/Services
~/Library/Services

Hmm, this was a fresh install. What's the best way to troubleshoot this?

Everything seems to be empty except /System/Library/Services which has:

Add to iTunes as a Spoken Track
AppleSpell
ChineseTextConverterService
Encode Selected audio Files
Encode Selected Video Files
ImageCaptureService
OpenSpell
Set Desktop Picture
Show Address in Google Maps
Show Map
SpeechService
Spotlight
Summary

 

[w0lf]

My thoughts:

Well you could always try just moving them out temporarily.

Does the menu open slow no matter what's in the context menu?

Does it open slow every time or just the first time?

Could be that the menu isn't caching?

Suppose it could also be a problem with another item like open with or tags, if it's only happening in Finder.

Do you have any apps that add something to the menu like dropbox?

You could try rebuilding launchservices:

/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/Support/lsregister -kill -r -domain local -domain user;killall Finder

Do you get any errors in /Applications/Utilities/Console.app when you right click?

Does the same occur if you hit control + mouse1 instead of mouse2? Could be a problem with your mouse and Mavericks.

You could try another fresh install.

Was this problem there from the second you installed or did it show up after time or restoring from a backup?

 

[ls1dreams]

My thoughts:

Well you could always try just moving them out temporarily.

Does the menu open slow no matter what's in the context menu?

Yes, any context menu, including the bookmark bar on Chrome

Does it open slow every time or just the first time?

Everytime.

Could be that the menu isn't caching?

No idea how to test this

Suppose it could also be a problem with another item like open with or tags, if it's only happening in Finder.

Do you have any apps that add something to the menu like dropbox?

Here are the only 3rd party ones I see mentioning when accessing it in Finder:
- Send file to teamviewer
- Move to dropbox

You could try rebuilding launchservices:

/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/Support/lsregister -kill -r -domain local -domain user;killall Finder

Did this, no change

Do you get any errors in /Applications/Utilities/Console.app when you right click?

No errors, it just shows a context menu

Does the same occur if you hit control + mouse1 instead of mouse2? Could be a problem with your mouse and Mavericks.

This is the most interesting! No, it works perfectly fast! To clarify, I'm not using a mouse, but just the touchpad. Basically, 2-finger touch (right click equivalent) is slow, but control + touchpad click is lightning fast. I just installed bettertouch tool, but I was having the problem before that was installed. (I've also tried disabling it just in case with no change).

You could try another fresh install.

Was this problem there from the second you installed or did it show up after time or restoring from a backup?

The second it started - I noticed a lagginess right away.

Awesome reply. Please see my comments above in bold.

Why would control+touchpad click (or control + touchpad tap) be fast but a two-finger tap be slow? I realize that gestures could potentially be slightly slower to recognize, but in 10.6.8 a two-finger-tap gesture was instantaneous, so I'm not sure why that would have changed.

As stated it's not really long, but just long enough for me to notice and get frustrated from it. Around 0.3-0.4 seconds. It's consistent system-wide, which makes me suspect it has something to do with the trackpad software and not individual context menus (finder, chrome, etc).

 

[w0lf]

Awesome reply. Please see my comments above in bold.

Why would control+touchpad click (or control + touchpad tap) be fast but a two-finger tap be slow? I realize that gestures could potentially be slightly slower to recognize, but in 10.6.8 a two-finger-tap gesture was instantaneous, so I'm not sure why that would have changed.

As stated it's not really long, but just long enough for me to notice and get frustrated from it. Around 0.3-0.4 seconds. It's consistent system-wide, which makes me suspect it has something to do with the trackpad software and not individual context menus (finder, chrome, etc).

Yup looks like that's it. I have no idea about the trackpad drivers but I notice it is slower myself when I use my trackpad.

The issue seems to be with 2 finger tap to click.

I can't really think of a workaround aside from either deal with it or use a different input as the right click. Like maybe try making 3 finger click do a right click using better touch tool and see if that has the same delay.

I suppose the delay is just small enough that most people don't complain.


EDIT: While I was typing this I think I've come up with a solution but you have to make a sacrifice.

1) Open system preferences
2) Trackpad
3) Scroll and Zoom
4) Uncheck smart zoom

My theory is that the delay is there because the system waits to see if you're gonna double tap to zoom before it tries to display the context menu, otherwise every time you used smart zoom the context menu would show up.

Enjoy.

 

[ls1dreams]

Yup looks like that's it. I have no idea about the trackpad drivers but I notice it is slower myself when I use my trackpad.

The issue seems to be with 2 finger tap to click.

I can't really think of a workaround aside from either deal with it or use a different input as the right click. Like maybe try making 3 finger click do a right click using better touch tool and see if that has the same delay.

I suppose the delay is just small enough that most people don't complain.


EDIT: While I was typing this I think I've come up with a solution but you have to make a sacrifice.

1) Open system preferences
2) Trackpad
3) Scroll and Zoom
4) Uncheck smart zoom

My theory is that the delay is there because the system waits to see if you're gonna double tap to zoom before it tries to display the context menu, otherwise every time you used smart zoom the context menu would show up.

Enjoy.

Yesssssssssssss.... that works for now. I'll never use smart zoom, so don't mind losing it at all. I was experimenting with turning off some of the other 3-tap things that I thought it might be checking for. Good call on the smart zoom.

Thanks so much. You've made me much happier.

Now if I could only get Better Touch Tool to actually work!

 

[w0lf]

Yesssssssssssss.... that works for now. I'll never use smart zoom, so don't mind losing it at all. I was experimenting with turning off some of the other 3-tap things that I thought it might be checking for. Good call on the smart zoom.

Thanks so much. You've made me much happier.

Now if I could only get Better Touch Tool to actually work!

From: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1650154/

 

[ls1dreams]

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From: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1650154/

Kind of works. Had to disable both the "lookup" gesture (3 finger tap) and the regular 3 finger swiping, but it's kind of inconsistent. Seems to work on the 2nd attempt.

Really wish Apple would just incorporate this back in.