Maxed out 13" or dGPU 15" rmbp?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by pscl, Nov 5, 2013.

  1. pscl macrumors 6502

    Jun 3, 2013

    I dont know what to do.

    I already ordered my 2,8/16/512 13" rMBP for 2030€ (edu Discount) but since i wait for it to arrive i have big doubts.

    I just realized that i get doubled power and a dGPU for only 350€ more.

    So is it just the portability of the 13" that matters?
    Is the 15" really that unportable in comparison to the 13"?
    Any experiences of u guys?

    Its such a hard descision :( help.
  2. Quackers macrumors 6502a

    Sep 18, 2013
    Manchester, UK
    And a bigger screen! :)

    The 15" is bigger and a little heavier but considering what I've carried around in the past the 15" is extremely portable though the 13" would be more so, if you know what I mean.

    It's a lot extra for the price you've quoted imho. It depends really on what makes you happier.

    Good luck with your decision :D
  3. maz-o macrumors member


    Jul 16, 2010
    I debated between a fully specced 13, or a higher-end stock 15.

    I went for the 15, because I wanted the bigger screen and better performance. Wasn't a hard decision at all.

    It's by no means "unportable".
  4. PDFierro macrumors 68040

    Sep 8, 2009
    Do you really need the power that the 15" offers? Or are you just dreaming about it? I'll take the 13" every time.
  5. Mr Mystery macrumors member

    Nov 3, 2013
    I went for the 13" for the portability, I will be carrying it around a lot at college every day.
  6. pscl thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jun 3, 2013
    So im a Student and will carry this thing all Day with me. Sometimes i Play Games that need gfx power. Till today i was pretty sure the 13" totally fits my needs in terms of portability but i dont know if it does in terms of Performance.

    And 400€ for the better value makes ne think about giving the portability less priority. :)

    Maan this is so hard.


    Did u bought the Maxed out? My question only matters if you get the maxed out. If my Limit was 1400€ then i would not have this descision to make :)
  7. phsphoenix macrumors member

    Oct 14, 2013
    I compared the 13" 2.6/16/512 to the 15" 2.3/16/512/750m. I ended up going for the 15" instead as it offered a bigger screen and a gpu. The fact that the BTO 13" wasn't much cheaper than the stock 15" helped in the comparison.
  8. Tears Apart macrumors 6502a

    Tears Apart

    Jun 10, 2009
    Outside Closer
    Yes, portability is the only deciding factor here. For some is important, for some is not. If portability can be scrapped for you, definitely 15'' value-wise.

    I go for 13''.
  9. dylin macrumors 6502a


    Jun 10, 2010
    Since you mentioned gaming.

    Just go for the 15". You will not be too pleased with the gaming performance of the Iris.

    But good luck makin your pick
  10. maflynn Moderator


    Staff Member

    May 3, 2009
    Gaming - you'll want the discrete GPU. I had a 13" MBP and found the screen size too limiting. I'd also recommend the 15" just for larger expansive screen as well.
  11. jdaniel macrumors 65816

    Mar 21, 2009
    Lviv, Ukraine
    depends on how much u really game.. if its a daily thing...then sure...but how fun can playing on a laptop be..might as well go with a TB display...I am not a gamer so I cant tell you for sure whats sufficient and whats not.

    if you have the money why not.. but back in the day before retina and the cut in weight.. I got rid of my 15" in favour of the 13" because it was WAYYYYY to heavy to carry around even on trips was such a pita... now it might be much lighter :) but if it weighs much more than a standard mbp 13" I wouldnt get it myself.
  12. pscl thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jun 3, 2013
    thank you all for your comments!

    well i`m more an off and on gamer, but sometimes when i visit my friends they play heavy 3d stuff like bf4, crysis etc. and i cant handle those games with my mba for sure, and even my 27" imac cant handle those games well.
    so yes... the 15" will be a significant boost even if i don`t want to replace my imac. in fact i like to have all the power of the 15" and it will be futureproof.

    i do take the 15" with me to university most of the time so the portability is definitely important too. but as some of u mentioned, the new 15" is not that heavy at all. i remember my 2009 15" mbp... way to heavy for all day carry around.

    well... worst case... after 1 year i realize that this is way too uncomfortable i sell my 15" and go for the 13".

    i guess i got my decision.

    am i happy now? maybe. damn. :D
  13. cramazing macrumors 6502

    Jun 17, 2012
    im in the exact situation.... cant decide......:confused::rolleyes:
  14. jondunford macrumors 6502


    Oct 22, 2013
    Going for a poo Moderator
    theres no point spending an extra €350 on something you don't need even if its a better deal

    its like in a store you can buy 3 items for the price of 2 when you only need 1... save even more money and just buy 1...
  15. MN7119 macrumors regular

    Mar 7, 2011
    Ordered the 13" and when it arrived I decided it was too small since it will be my main computer at home. Ordered a 15" to replace it. "Go big or go home!!!"
  16. Pikkuroope macrumors member

    Oct 25, 2008
    The 13" is still considerably more portable. If you have no real need for the performance the 15" offers and plan to drag the thing around a lot, go for the 13". It's not just lighter, it's much smaller in size also (obviously). So it fits in a lot more bags and stuff. Then again, if you need the power and it's your only computer, it's obvious, go for the 15". It's all about whether you really need power or not. Most people don't.
  17. sabbyp macrumors regular

    Oct 26, 2013
    the cpu on the 13" is slower, the gpu is marginally slower but honestly both the new iris pro and the 750m have mid range graphics capabilities. If you absolutely HAVE to have the best graphics apple can put in a notebook at the moment, then go for the 15". If not, and you're not going to running intensive graphics and cpu tasks every day, go for greater mobility.
  18. PDFierro macrumors 68040

    Sep 8, 2009
    Sounds like you want the extreme power that the 15" offers.
  19. pscl thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jun 3, 2013
    Guys... here is my update.

    i just got my 15" 512/16/Geforce rmbp today.

    its just amazing. im so happy that i didnt bought the maxed out 13"
    perfect performance... incredible fast... nice gaming performance.

    mind. blown. :)
  20. cramazing macrumors 6502

    Jun 17, 2012
    I just did the same!!! :D:D:D:D

    but dont have my hands on it yet, cant wait!
  21. nateo200 macrumors 68030


    Feb 4, 2009
    Northern District NY
    Glad I didn't have to persuade another over the internet to stick with the 15" camp ;);):cool: Quad-Core > Dual-Core. Also maybe I'm just used to carrying like 50lbs of camera and computer equipment with me but the 15" rMBP is sooooo feels so much more portable than even my regular 13" MBP...Idk how people can justify weight for performance when the weight is so miniscule and the performance gain is so giant.
  22. dusk007 macrumors 68040


    Dec 5, 2009
    I agree but my primary reason for 15" has always been that I think a 13" screen is just too small. When I want to code somewhere without a power outlet I don't want to deal with a 13" mini screen. I never understood what is the problem of lugging around a 15" notebook. The bag I would carry it around in wouldn't shrink to some girl sized purse and what do I gain if the notebook takes less space in my normal sized bag than the 15". They equally thick so there is no real gain.

    @op just the Iris Pro is also about 70% faster in most things than the Iris of the 13". dGPU or not that quad core chip is much faster.
    The downside is battery life. I am quite sure in any real life usage scenario the 13" lasts a lot longer. Yeah those extremely unrealistic light weight battery life tests don't have that much of a difference. In reality you don't load a webpage by issueing command in a tenth of millisecond and then stare at the screen for 40 seconds until you load the next one. In these test the whole cheap can go into the deepest sleep state for most of the time. A real human, scrolls around and clicks link far more frequently than every half minute, installs plug ins and what not or has some music playing constantly. I also don't understand who sits in a brightly lit coffee shop with a dimmed screen all the time.

    I think it is speed or max battery life, size really shouldn't be an issue.
  23. pscl thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jun 3, 2013
  24. Kevclark1985 macrumors member

    Jul 2, 2013
    Glad you made a choice you are happy with OP.

    Must say though, a lot of people are dismissing the 13" (unless you want to be portable is the consensus). I'd disagree with that.

    I have just ordered a 13" to use almost primarily at home, I'll add a few points of reasoning below:

    - I don't need the processing power of quad core (so why pay extra for it)
    - 13" screen is big enough for most tasks as I am not a graphic designer or anything (especially if resolution upped to give more screen real estate)
    - If I need a larger screen I can connect my external monitor (not retina but ok for those rare occasions)
    - It's a lot lighter for casual usage at home eg sitting on the couch with it on my lap
    - Personally I think it looks nicer being more compact (I don't like the extra width and casing either side of the keyboard on the 15", don't think it looks as good aesthetically)
    - I don't think the GPU on the 15" is worth the extra money from a gaming perspective, especially as the cost is a lot more for high end model (about £800 more than my 13" model). Unless you need the GPU for work purposes in which case it's worth it. For that extra money I would rather build a windows gaming PC that's upgradeable GPU wise and will perform better, or buy a PS4 for much less money.

    Just my 2 cents to add to the discussion and why I think the 13" is a very viable model for some uses and much better value for money in a lot of cases. Glad you are happy with your 15" though OP, at the end of the day, that's all that really matters :)
  25. maflynn Moderator


    Staff Member

    May 3, 2009
    Nice, and congrats. I love my rMBP, its the best laptop I've owned. Looks like you'll be happy with your decision :)

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