Maxed out MB or basic MBP

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by polevault139, Jan 6, 2007.

  1. polevault139 macrumors 6502

    Sep 24, 2006
    I'm torn between getting a MB or a MBP.

    The Mackbook is the top of the line white model w/ 2GB RAM and 120GB HD
    The MBP is the lower end 15" with 2GB RAM and 120 GB HD

    I will be using it for all the basic things, word processor, excel, internet. So your thinking MB right. Bu there is one thing I cannot live without. Photoshop. So are the integrated graphics of the Macbook going to slow me down? I get the education discount, so the price difference is a little less than $500. My aunt is getting one for me for my graduation present and I have made a deal with her that she would buy me the MB, but I can convince her to let me pay the extra $500 for the MBP. So my real question is it really worth it to go Pro?

    The only thing I'll miss from the Macbook is the keyboard, I love that thing.

    I'll have to run some windows programs because I will need some thermodynamics programs FYI.

    Too bad there is nothing in the middle yet...
  2. Kodex macrumors member

    Jan 30, 2003
    I would go with the MBP.

    First off its a pro machine and historically they hold up better.

    •Larger Screen
    •Backlite keyboard
    •Choice of Matte finish on the screen
    •Firewire 800
    •PC Cardbus
    •Lots more =)
  3. aaronw1986 macrumors 68030

    Oct 31, 2006
  4. Zman5225 macrumors 6502a

    May 15, 2005
    Tacoma WA
    Another vote for the MBP! I think you'll end up regretting not getting it in the first place. I'm saving up for one right now.
  5. dwd3885 macrumors 68020

    Dec 10, 2004
    Funny, cuz the lower end MBP is as good spec-wise as the MacBook. I was torn between the two and went with the MBP C2D. You won't regret it!
  6. vanzskater272 macrumors regular

    Aug 10, 2006
  7. iW00t macrumors 68040


    Nov 7, 2006
    Defenders of Apple Guild
    My vote: Macbook

    There is not even a single vertex shaded by Photoshop, so... no.

    Besides the Macbook Pros display plain suck, you don't want that don't you?

    For the price difference you can almost get a 20" ACD...

    Get the Macbook, it has good specs for its money. The Macbook Pro is just a average laptop with a screen worse than what you get in $900 laptops and an aging and obsolete GPU chip.
  8. iBorg20181 macrumors 6502


    Apr 5, 2006
    Minneapolis, MN
    Take iWoot's advice with a BARREL of salt - he's a well-known Apple-bashing, Dell-troll ... do a search by his moniker, and follow his endless rants about the screen, and almost everything else. (Look at his sig! I don't know why he trolls here, when he's so obvious a Dell fanboy?) Go to an Apple Store and check the screens yourself - my MBP's screen is the best notebook screen I've ever had (and I've owned a variety of Apple and PC notebooks to compare!)

    For $500, get the MBP, it's an obvious choice, unless you need the smaller form-factor of the MB. Even at $1000 difference, a large segment choose the MBP for a variety of reasons: larger screen, decent graphics chip, FW800 and ExpressCard 34. Both are great notebooks - choose the one that suits your needs.

    Good luck!

  9. SmokyD macrumors regular

    Jan 1, 2007
    tough choice

    It's a tough call. Both are beautiful machines. But iW00t is right about the screen issues with the MBP. Plenty of people have had various problems with the screens. From what I've seen at the local Apple stores, the MB screens are a little more even and have less vignetting in the corners. That's just my impression though, from the Macbooks I've seen.

    The MB keyboards are cool and the machine feels really solid. It's also slightly more portable than the MBP. It's a good deal for the money. I think it will handle Photoshop fine if you put 2 GB of memory in it. However, running lots of other programs will eventually slow you down, as all video is shared with your memory.

    If you plan to get a new computer in about two years, you probably won't need much in the way of expansion, and for your needs I'd go with the Macbook and save your money. The extra RAM in your Macbook will do the job for most things. However, if you want three or four years out of the notebook, plus expansion capabilities, or plan to use any graphics programs for engineering courses, go for the MBP.

    Personally I'd choose the MBP as long as it has a good screen. Check it the the Apple store before buying.
  10. iW00t macrumors 68040


    Nov 7, 2006
    Defenders of Apple Guild
    Do a search for iBorg's posts. All my posts are backed by facts, all iBorg's posts are... fueled by his blind faith in Apple

    It is your money.

    I rest my case.

    polevault139 should listen to this. Take a look at it first.

    If you are like iBorg with mediocre requirements and easy to please with "torch mode" backlighting alone, you will be pleased with the MBP easily. Just take a stock 15" MBP, install Bootcamp and load Windows XP on it, then put it alongside a $900 Dell.

    You will be surprised who is the winner. Hint: not the $1999 computer. ***** colour reproduction, poor colour banding, poor colour saturation, excessive graininess and screen artifacts. Best screen amongst the laptops you owned? Wow you must have had very lousy luck previously and seriously lucked out buying Steve Job's personal prototype unit.
  11. other macrumors 6502

    Aug 18, 2005
    I vote for the MacBook (as long as you get one that doesn't whine):
    • $500 Cheaper (like someone said, buy an external display or something with the money you save)
    • Smaller and lighter
    • Easy to replace harddrive
    • Better WiFi reception
    • Magnetic latch
    • Better keyboard
    The MacBook Pro definitely needs a design update (function wise, but aesthetics would probably have to been changed to achieve better WiFi reception)

    Maybe I should add, I had the same dilemma, and I went with the MacBook.
  12. Jiddick ExRex macrumors 65816

    Jiddick ExRex

    May 14, 2006
    Roskilde, DK
    I agree with the Macbook recommendations, for what you do a MBP is simply overkill compared to a MB with a 20" widescreen as external monitor.

    And iBorg's argumentation is flawed. You cannot argue against the advice of the Macbook by insulting the advisor. That's just a horrible way of trying to win an argument.
  13. nyzballa12 macrumors member

    Nov 5, 2006
    MBP all the way! Expecially if you need it for ps like you said. I would have said if you didn't need PS then get the MB and a refurbed ACD. But since you are using PS then you will need the vram in the pro
  14. polevault139 thread starter macrumors 6502

    Sep 24, 2006
    Thanks for all the replies, as of now I think I am leaning towords the Macbook. Right now I have the basic iMac (with the GMA 950), and even though photoshop is a little slow its not that bad. And plus I will have 2GB of memory instead of 1. I think that the keyboard is keeping on the Macbook side.
  15. 10-Dee-Q macrumors 6502

    May 10, 2006
    Bandung, West Java, Indonesia & Singapore
    i have
    MBP 2.0G CD
    Just bought
    MB Black 2.0 C2D yesterday

    To be truthfully, i'm really impressed with the build quality of MB
    my MBP screen did not align well when closed and also sometimes i got electric shock :(
    My Black MB build is very solid everything perfectly aligned and somehow it "feels" more solid than the MBP.

    I dont games at all ,
    and i just have my black MB for 1 days so i havent do much on it yet
    but from my 1st day evaluation, i think i might sell of my MBP cause i loved the MB black more :p
    and also INMHO the design of MB os much sweeter than the MBP even the white one :p

    but i miss the backlight keyboard and sensor that automatically dimm the screen when i close the lights on my room :(
    and also the speakers on my MB is Sucks big time compared to MBP

    so both are lovely machine ,
    u just need to follow your heart to get what u really want :p
  16. 10-Dee-Q macrumors 6502

    May 10, 2006
    Bandung, West Java, Indonesia & Singapore
    anyway my specs are:

    -MBP 2.0 Ghz Core Duo
    2 GB RAM
    256MB Ati Radeon X1600
    160 GB Seagate mommentus 5400 rpm

    -MB "Blackbook" 2.0Ghz Core 2 Duo
    2 GB RAM
    Intel GMA 950
    160 GB Seagate Mommentus 5400 rpm

    for me there's no noticable different in terms of proccesing speeds on both machine.

    Hope it Helps :p
  17. thebeephaha macrumors 6502


    Sep 4, 2006
    Seattle WA
    iWoot, in your signature for the screen you got for your macbook pro, its technically spelled "Matte" not just "Matt"...
  18. djejrejk macrumors 6502a


    Jan 3, 2007
    I think that the MacBook Keyboards look pretty cheesy. Must be a bit@# to clean. I know that those cases are really strong but that plastic still feels cheap to me. No way i could justify 2000$. Go with the MBP.
  19. Mac'Mo macrumors 6502a


    Aug 29, 2006
    i would have to really say that it depends on your lifestyle. If you need to travel a lot then the MBP might not be your best choice because i find even the 15" to be quiet bulky and not AS mobile as the MB. I am a commuting college student and I find the MB serves my purposes. There are pros and cons to both.
  20. DigitalN. macrumors member

    Jan 3, 2007
    the macbook keyboard in no way is any different from a regular old keyboard. The only difference is the fact that the keys aren't concave (they are flat) and the fact they dont slope off the side of the keys, and go straight down. This makes for a much better typing experience, since it is hard to hit the wrong key unintentionally.
  21. iW00t macrumors 68040


    Nov 7, 2006
    Defenders of Apple Guild
    Thanks for the heads up, but I hit the character limit so something else would have to go :D
  22. iPegboy macrumors regular

    Jan 13, 2003
    if you've got the money, go with the macbook pro.
  23. DavoMrMac macrumors 6502


    Oct 9, 2005
    I would go maxed out MacBook and a nice 20-inch display or a 21-inch Samsung 215TW (awesome). You then have the best of both worlds.

    Good portability.
    Nice magnetic latch.
    Good 13.3-inch compact screen.
    Nice dual display set-up when you need it.

    The MBPro is nice and the graphics card helps with high end work, and you get a slight performance bump, but I think the smart money is with a portable, dual screen set-up.
  24. Lomaxfairchild macrumors newbie

    Jun 25, 2003
    No he really won't. The graphics are only an issue if you're gaming, 3D-rendering or the like.

    I was in a similar position and went for a black MB with 2GB RAM. It's much more portable than the 15" pro. You obviously get more screen space on a Pro which is important if it's your only machine (given Photoshop's myriad of pallettes). I use an external monitor at my desk so this isn't generally an issue - as someone else pointed out, you could use the price difference to fund the same.

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