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I'm sorry for misquoting you, I wasn't trying to misrepresent your points, as I have indicated, I'm largely in agreement with you, but just as Apple views Adobe as a threat, it is also entirely possible that Adobe views Apple as a threat.

Apple doesn't view Adobe as a threat. Period.
 
Because part of "image" is exclusivity, Mac OS X offers that. That and Vista was really really bad. My point is, the whole "oh my computer is SO different to yours that mine has this rad OS" is part of the image. The whole "oh it just works" philosophy reeks of appealing to the lowest common denominator. For the record it's NOT easy to appeal to lowest common denominator, it took great innovation and skill to do so, but the point remains: you simplify so that non-techies have a good time on the computer.

This of course does not mean that Mac OS X doesn't have the tools for sophisticated computer work, it's Linux foundation and terminal operations, etc. are very powerful, in fact the whole system is vastly powerful, BUT that doesn't change the fact that image is important to Apple branding.

If you think that most people buy Macs because of the OS alone, I honestly think you're sorely mistaken, I think the OS is an elegant perk on top of a very very beautiful and cool laptop. And to the lay person, the fact that it is running a different OS adds to image.

I actually kind of agree with your sentiment as to why people bash macs. But that's not the whole equation, I don't think Mac Fanboys do people who use macs any favours either, but that's not here or there.

At Scottsdale:

I'm sorry for misquoting you, I wasn't trying to misrepresent your points, as I have indicated, I'm largely in agreement with you, but just as Apple views Adobe as a threat, it is also entirely possible that Adobe views Apple as a threat.

Adobe knows of Apple's track record to "change the game", and perhaps there is an element of gamesmanship between the pair to see who can screw whoever the most, and if there is, would that be so surprising?

That and there seems to stink of a little bit of the most basic "game" in the game theory sense, but I loathe to delve any deeper into this train of thought as I'm tired and I haven't studied game theory in years.

Your comment that Apple does not keep up with technological change is both, in my mind, correct and astute, it's entirely true; instead Apple promotes it's "branding" and "image"; or at least that's what I view it does.

OSX wasnt built for only image either. It was purely built for an overall more efficient, virus free system. And apple happened to once again did right with the look of OSX as it is a beautiful system as well.

I agree that people dont buy certain manufactured notebooks based solely on the operating system (since every other manufacturers only support linux or windows), but I was referring to specifically Mac users.
 
Dell and HP do that? Very funny. Firstly, you'll want to buy extended if you buy any crap from either of those makers, and secondly the standard warranty involves shipping your junk to them. I'd never buy HP again. Absolutely the worst junk made. Dell isn't a whole lot better. Lots of class actions against them and profits are way down for good reason. Neither are known for good service. Just try calling either of them. Unless you're purchasing get ready for a run around and a long wait. At least with Apple you can walk the thing into a store even without a warranty and get somebody to look at it. Anyhow Apple gear is generally way better engineered. Chances of needing service are generally less. The only thing you need a house call for really is a desktop machine and Apple Care includes this for the iMac and Pro line. Dude you're talking out your ass here.

I JUST purchased a high end HP desktop. I had to go through some verification processes with HP and they were extremely efficient and helpful. Calling with any questions they/I might have had, and staying in tough via email within maybe half an hour or so.

They also for around 160$ offer a 2 year care package, or like 215 for 3. Includes phone/email/repairs/house visits, etc.

Not to mention I got for 2,000:
Elite-180t
2.6(3)gHz
1TB HDD / 7200rpm
12 g RAM
1.8g NVidia (i dont' remember exactly which one)

And a 25" widescreen display.

I've also had a Dell laptop for 4 years that has Never had to be repaired. Not once. Still working great.

Your generalizations of companies that have the industry in control is just not justified.




On a side note, what exactly CAN OSX do that Win7 can't? Other than being a little prettier, and only working on a Mac?



I'm not against Mac's, but people using them can just be plain ignorant.
 
OSX wasnt built for only image either. It was purely built for an overall more efficient, virus free system. And apple happened to once again did right with the look of OSX as it is a beautiful system as well.

I agree that people dont buy certain manufactured notebooks based solely on the operating system (since every other manufacturers only support linux or windows), but I was referring to specifically Mac users.

My implication wasn't that OS X was built for the purposes of being pretty, my point is that it's prettiness has become a part of the image process.

I will happily concede that OSX started off as a project to offer a more secure and robust OS (whether it does or not is of course always up for debate, but that's not the issue here), but as time has gone by my argument is that Apple, whilst caring about these things because they are good selling points, cares MORE about the image that a Mac offers.

Might I also add, not all mac users think "oh man awesome OS, it's so secure, let's buy it", instead it's more likely, "ohh shiny...and as a perk cool OS". The initial attracting factor for many is more likely to be "shiny pretty laptop" (or desktop, those iMacs are gorgeous) rather than "oo Linux based security of OS X".

I'm of course not saying that -all- mac users think the way I'm postulating, I'm saying that Apple is promoting itself in a way to appeal to a broader consumer base (and what business wouldn't?) by promoting image. It may have started off as a minor factor, but at this point in time, I think it is a little naive to think that one of Apple's main consideration isn't image.

At Compile 'em all:

I disagree. Scottsdale's argument is quite persuasive, and as you've offered very little to argue your point, I have difficulty accepting your assertion as it is. If you care to elaborate, I'm of course open to persuasion.
 
"Apple cannot allow Flash on the iPad/iPhone because people would have a much easier time bypassing the app store"

This is a bit illogical. There wasn't even an app store on the first gen iPhone. It's also a big leap to assume that mobile flash could produce anywhere near the quality of games found in the app story (many of which are free, btw). Can you imagine how fast a flash based game would drain your battery? Yeah, no thanks. Not to mention you couldn't even play a lot of these flash games on a touch screen.

Have many mobile devices actually have flash anyway?
 
"Apple cannot allow Flash on the iPad/iPhone because people would have a much easier time bypassing the app store"

This is a bit illogical. There wasn't even an app store on the first gen iPhone. It's also a big leap to assume that mobile flash could produce anywhere near the quality of games found in the app story (many of which are free, btw). Can you imagine how fast a flash based game would drain your battery? Yeah, no thanks. Not to mention you couldn't even play a lot of these flash games on a touch screen.

Have many mobile devices actually have flash anyway?

the fact that there isn't an app store on the 1st gen iPhone is beside the point. There is now, and Apple is reaping the rewards. The revenue from the app store is one thing, the "buy the iPhone because it has an app store which has stuff you couldn't otherwise do" is another selling point.

As to how fast flash drains battery, it would depend on how well it is written now wouldn't it?

That and flash is used in places like hulu which is a sucker of iTunes products. But I have reservations about this point as, if HTML5 is supported, yet offers what Flash can do, it seems a little illogical to explain the entire situation as "Apple is afraid of loss revenue", since HTML5 has the same potential.

Like i said previously, I'm not sure it is entirely Apple's fault, but I'm pretty sure Apple isn't helping.
 
the fact that there isn't an app store on the 1st gen iPhone is beside the point. There is now, and Apple is reaping the rewards. The revenue from the app store is one thing, the "buy the iPhone because it has an app store which has stuff you couldn't otherwise do" is another selling point.

As to how fast flash drains battery, it would depend on how well it is written now wouldn't it?

That and flash is used in places like hulu which is a sucker of iTunes products. But I have reservations about this point as, if HTML5 is supported, yet offers what Flash can do, it seems a little illogical to explain the entire situation as "Apple is afraid of loss revenue", since HTML5 has the same potential.

Like i said previously, I'm not sure it is entirely Apple's fault, but I'm pretty sure Apple isn't helping.

I am pretty sure I remember Apple "working with" Adobe to try to get Flash on the original iPhone. I believe Apple had a vision of the app store long before it released the iPhone in its first iteration anyways.

It all comes down to what people are used to doing. If people get used to watching TV programs for $.99 or $1.99 on iTunes, they will never mind paying for the shows in the first place... they can watch them whenever they want. I pay for a lot of content myself. I buy shows that I like that I started watching after the series was a year in. I went back and bought the entire three seasons of it just in the last few months. I love that I can watch those whenever I want... on a plane, in bed with nothing else to watch, or even at the hospital undergoing treatment.

On the other hand, I expect other content for free because I have gotten used to watching it for free already. I would rather watch 2.5 minutes of commercials and see Lost whenever I want to watch it on Hulu than pay Apple $2 for the same thing. The other thing is I don't view 2.5 minutes of commercials as a time killer or problematic but rather a fair proposition for my time versus money. If an Apple show was $.99 or I had to watch 12 minutes of commercials, I would pay the $.99. It all comes down to choices of what people are used too. People were used to normal television broadcasting which required them to sit down in front of the TV at a certain time, watch 17 minutes of commercials per hour and not miss a minute to see the entire show... the Internet sites like Hulu.com are a bargain and the perfect solution compared to that. Some sites use Flash in ways to extremely challenge Apple's business model for the future. Selling iPods is great not only for the $200 sale of the iPod but making all the money on the music content in addition. Apple wants that with videos and even print media content, but the problem is websites can provide the same tech for free via Flash and streaming content along with commercials to pay for the content. Apple isn't going to "win" with video content as long as there are free alternatives that don't offer a drastic difference in value or time costs from the viewer.

In five years, technology will be completely different. Apple will already have its hooks in some people. I am sure Apple would rather sites like Hulu.com never even be invented because it provides "CHOICES." Apple doesn't like CHOICES so Apple eliminates Flash from its products and people lose their choices for content and ultimately pay for said content.

I say this to my Pops all the time. He will stay up until 10:20pm every night to watch the weather. I keep telling him in a few years he will tap a "weather" icon on an iPad and his local weatherman will give him a five minute weather forecast that was the most recent recorded and will get automatically updated every three hours or something.

The world we live in is changing, but and people will pay for convenience but they will not pay for something if they're used to getting it for free and they now have to pay. Perhaps Apple will develop its own commercial laden content and be able to provide it free also. It may very well be a choice soon as Apple has bought both AdMob and Lala which are advertising and music streaming services... the point is Apple is quickly learning it has to alter and change with the times because it realizes the iTunes for music works but people have alternative choices to listen to anything streamed instead of downloading and playing whenever to stream it and listen for free and not get "ownership" of a digital file. Apple needs to prosper in both selling content and providing it via paid advertising sponsorship. It's the exact same deal with video and alternative media content. Apple is going to compete in every facet to ensure its relevance... because it realizes the world sometimes wants free content.

For now, avoiding Flash ensures that at least on Apple's own products it doesn't lose a lot of business when they're sold specifically to sell Apple's own content services. In addition, it gives time for Apple to transform its business model and ensure that only it can provide content for its own devices whether that content is being paid for by the end user/viewer or by advertising sponsors who will give Apple revenue for Apple's own products anyways. Look at the stupid search feature on the iPhone, Apple is making a boatload of money where I never had even considered it. On the Internet, traffic makes money inherently and Apple needs to ensure it controls the flow of traffic through its own devices.
 
here's a post that might actually help the O.P.

I used to have this same exact problem with the fans comming on too often.
The problem is the horrible thermal paste application job that the manufacturer does from the factory

many of us early MBA owneres have had huge success re-applying the thermal paste. This is not a difficult process, but you do have to be comfortable opening up your MBA

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/567129/
 
It's not a solution to say the customers just cannot use Flash and in the long-run accept HTML5 and h.264. The long-run plan is fine, but the short-term solution is not fair and isn't a solution at all.

Is there not a catch-22 here? Is there an argument to be made that if Apple were to fully support flash, and do it well, that no one would BOTHER to switch over to HTML5 and h.264?

Perhaps Apple, knowing the strength the iPhone has at the moment, is taking this window of opportunity to essentially 'force' the issue and get developers to move away from Flash. This may be their one chance to do this, otherwise we may be permanently doomed to a flash based internet.
 
Try Coolbook. It is only $10 and it helped keep my MBP nice and cool when I was using it.

www.Coolbook.se

I should probably get this on my wife's MacBook Air. I'm not sure what rev she has but it's the 1.6 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo w/ 2 GB 1067 MHz DDR3. We had bought it April 2009. We've struggled to watch videos off of hulu on here. I just installed snow leopard so maybe that will help, but if not, I'll try coolbook out. I found this site for settings: http://theappleblog.com/2009/04/15/fix-macbook-air-streaming-video-and-overheating-problems/

I actually believe you must have an HDD in your MBA to be seeing The Spinning Beach Ball from Hell like that. With my stock SSD, a beach ball was a rare deal. With a Runcore SSD, the beach ball is almost never seen. With a stock HDD, The Spinning Beach Ball from Hell is a "constant" just as a mouse pointer is a constant. Give an MBA a Penryn 1.86/2.13 GHz CPU, an Nvidia GPU, an SSD and Mini Display Port, and the thing drives a 24" LED ACD without any work at all. I refuse to say the MBA isn't capable. I do agree it's not a MacBook "PRO" but then neither is a MacBook Pro a "Pro." Needless to say the MBA is not marketed as a capable professional computer. In addition, the MBA has an underclocked GPU running at about 80% of the power of the 13" MBP. Also remember the MBA has limited space to cool via fans or heat sync.

OP: I rarely ever hear my fans. I do apologize though, as I incorrectly assumed it was overheating since the fans were going nuts. I do see the fans go sometimes when I am really hitting the system hard via HD video playback.

Is it possible to go into a MacBook Air to swap out the Hard Drive for an SSD? i have a 120gb SAMSUNG HS12UHE in here. What about improving the ram?
 
Is it possible to go into a MacBook Air to swap out the Hard Drive for an SSD? i have a 120gb SAMSUNG HS12UHE in here. What about improving the ram?

Yes. There are a few after market solutions for the MacBook Air. Your computer will require a SATA drive with the LIF connection. RAM is soldered on the motherboard.

There are some threads in this forum about a runcore replacement SSD.
 
^^ Thanks for this info. I have to research the gain in performance with this. this is my wife's MBA so she only does so much with it. If it was mine I would definitely be looking for performance improvements everywhere i could
 
The easy thing would be to call the support and have them send a technician to your house to fix the machine on site. But you bought a computer from Apple... and they don't offer real service. Dell and HP do that.

Anyway, from your description, this sounds like a real hardware defect and you really should bring your machine to service. Once it's fixed, sell it.

Ha, Ha. Dell and HP have done nothing to help with my defective under warranty machines of theirs I have right now in my home. SEND SOMEONE????? they just spend 5-6 hours at a crack "troubleshooting" on the phone then promise to "escalate" it tomorrow, but they're going off shift today. They never faollow through and the machine stays broken until the warranty expires, then they tell you "tough luck." I have several defective Apple hardware issues but new hardware was sent overnight and I returned the defective hardware in the box the old came in. No one needed to come to my home (ec.xcept UPS, and they're generally here anyway with an Amazon purchase) and a total of 5 mi utes on the phone. HP and Dell have crappy ratings on customer support because their support is crappy.
 
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