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I have MacBook Air m1 16/256 Model. Do you suggest I update to Ventura 13.1? I am currently using Monterey 12.6.2. Performance-battery Losses?
 
I have MacBook Air m1 16/256 Model. Do you suggest I update to Ventura 13.1? I am currently using Monterey 12.6.2. Performance-battery Losses?
My question is why do you want to update to Ventura?

I’m holding off on my M2 MacBook Air. I wouldn’t expect any real world performance difference and battery life is already more than I’ll ever need so that’s not my worry. My worry would be some sort of bugs that haven’t been fixed yet.
 
My question is why do you want to update to Ventura?

I’m holding off on my M2 MacBook Air. I wouldn’t expect any real world performance difference and battery life is already more than I’ll ever need so that’s not my worry. My worry would be some sort of bugs that haven’t been fixed yet.
I think that it can be more optimeze and more useful in terms of performance, what is your suggestion?
 
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I think that it can be more optimeze and more useful in terms of performance, what is your suggestion?
Where are you trying to optimize? More useful in terms of performance? Is there something on your M1 that’s not useful or performing correctly? I don’t think you’re going to notice any kind of big changes were all the sudden something that took a second to open now just opens instantly.

What you’re going to get is a UI change. That means things are going to look different with a few new features like Stage Manager. There is a chance you could have some malfunction or bug but I think it’s fairly safe at this point since there has been a .1 update.

It sounds like you’re just bored and want to tinker with it and that’s fine because I’m kind of that way too sometimes. If the machine is not critical to what you need then I would say go ahead but have everything backed up of course. If you were expecting some performance improvement you’re going to be disappointed though. It’s going to be a new look with some new features
 
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Where are you trying to optimize? More useful in terms of performance? Is there something on your M1 that’s not useful or performing correctly? I don’t think you’re going to notice any kind of big changes were all the sudden something that took a second to open now just opens instantly.

What you’re going to get is a UI change. That means things are going to look different with a few new features like Stage Manager. There is a chance you could have some malfunction or bug but I think it’s fairly safe at this point since there has been a .1 update.

It sounds like you’re just bored and want to tinker with it and that’s fine because I’m kind of that way too sometimes. If the machine is not critical to what you need then I would say go ahead but have everything backed up of course. If you were expecting some performance improvement you’re going to be disappointed though. It’s going to be a new look with some new features
Honestly my battery is not doing well. My Cycle 17. I have a new mac. Maybe it will optimize my battery. I have opened such topics in my profile and I am sharing the links with you. Do you think it's worth going?

 
Where are you trying to optimize? More useful in terms of performance? Is there something on your M1 that’s not useful or performing correctly? I don’t think you’re going to notice any kind of big changes were all the sudden something that took a second to open now just opens instantly.

What you’re going to get is a UI change. That means things are going to look different with a few new features like Stage Manager. There is a chance you could have some malfunction or bug but I think it’s fairly safe at this point since there has been a .1 update.

It sounds like you’re just bored and want to tinker with it and that’s fine because I’m kind of that way too sometimes. If the machine is not critical to what you need then I would say go ahead but have everything backed up of course. If you were expecting some performance improvement you’re going to be disappointed though. It’s going to be a new look with some new features
Honestly my battery is not doing well. My Cycle 17. I have a new Mac. It lasts for 9 hours on 100% charge. Maybe it will optimize my battery. And I was using Ventura 13.0.1. I was experiencing drops in clips and animations sometimes on desktop transitions, so I went back to Montere, now that 13.1 is out I think maybe it will be better
 
Honestly my battery is not doing well. My Cycle 17. I have a new Mac. It lasts for 9 hours on 100% charge. Maybe it will optimize my battery. And I was using Ventura 13.0.1. I was experiencing drops in clips and animations sometimes on desktop transitions, so I went back to Montere, now that 13.1 is out I think maybe it will be better
How high is your display brightness. Only getting 9 hours from a M1 MacBook Air is pretty low. I regularly got over 12 hours from my M1 MacBook Air and I do even better with the M2 MacBook Air. As far as I can tell, Ventura didn't make much difference.

My M2 MacBook Air at 1/2 brightness uses about 3 W at idle. It uses about 5 W at 3/4 brightness and a whopping 8.5 W when full brightness. That means at idle it goes from about 17.5 hours at idle on 1/2 brightness down to only a little over 6 hours at full brightness.
 
How high is your display brightness. Only getting 9 hours from a M1 MacBook Air is pretty low. I regularly got over 12 hours from my M1 MacBook Air and I do even better with the M2 MacBook Air. As far as I can tell, Ventura didn't make much difference.

My M2 MacBook Air at 1/2 brightness uses about 3 W at idle. It uses about 5 W at 3/4 brightness and a whopping 8.5 W when full brightness. That means at idle it goes from about 17.5 hours at idle on 1/2 brightness down to only a little over 6 hours at full brightness.
So I'm a mobile developer. Xcode is open Chrome 4-5 tabs are open (Chrome is called battery monster.) Iphone 14 pro simulator is open. Spotify is on and WhatsApp. My screen brightness is between 50%-70%-
 
So I'm a mobile developer. Xcode is open Chrome 4-5 tabs are open (Chrome is called battery monster.) Iphone 14 pro simulator is open. Spotify is on and WhatsApp. My screen brightness is between 50%-70%-
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I updated my work MacBook Air M1 from macOS Ventura 13.0.1 to 13.1, so far so good. macOS Monterey is perfectly fine if you don't want to use the new AppleID tied in features.
 
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So I'm a mobile developer. Xcode is open Chrome 4-5 tabs are open (Chrome is called battery monster.) Iphone 14 pro simulator is open. Spotify is on and WhatsApp. My screen brightness is between 50%-70%-
9 hours with all that stuff running and you using the machine for dev work with 50-70% screen brightness seems perfectly reasonable. Nothing's wrong with your battery, and an OS upgrade won't help you get more life.

When Apple says things like "Up to 15 hours wireless web" (what they claim for the M2 MBA) you need to read the fine print and think about what their test covers and whether you can expect the same. It says:
  1. Testing conducted by Apple in May 2022 using preproduction MacBook Air systems with Apple M2, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 8GB of RAM, and 256GB SSD. The wireless web test measures battery life by wirelessly browsing 25 popular websites with display brightness set to 8 clicks from bottom. The Apple TV app movie playback test measures battery life by playing back HD 1080p content with display brightness set to 8 clicks from bottom. Battery life varies by use and configuration. See apple.com/batteries for more information.
They're using Safari, not Chrome (they're Apple, of course they're using their own browser). They're probably not opening more than one tab. They're certainly not running Spotify, or WhatsApp, or the iPhone 14 Pro simulator, or Xcode. About the only thing which really matches what you're doing is the display brightness (8 clicks from bottom is 50%).

The M2 MBA's battery is only 52.6 watt-hours. To get 15 hours of life out of it, that implies the whole computer (M2 SoC, display, wifi radio, etc etc) draws only 52.6 Wh / 15h = 3.5 watts of power, average, for the entire duration of Apple's wireless web test. That's very little! Much of it is probably the LCD backlight.

Your 9 hours is 52.6 / 9 = 5.84 watts. That's only about 2.3W more than Apple's wireless web tests. And frankly, it's extremely reasonable. What you're doing with the computer should put a lot more load on the CPU, and therefore should use a lot more power.
 
So I'm a mobile developer. Xcode is open Chrome 4-5 tabs are open (Chrome is called battery monster.) Iphone 14 pro simulator is open. Spotify is on and WhatsApp. My screen brightness is between 50%-70%-
Same here. I'm an iOS developer, running the exact same MBA config (16/256, M1 2020, 86% battery health). Absolutely zero issues with Ventura 13.1 and Xcode 14.2.

All dev tools and apps running great with no problems
 
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So how's the battery doing? how many hours does your battery last
 
Same here. I'm an iOS developer, running the exact same MBA config (16/256, M1 2020, 86% battery health). Absolutely zero issues with Ventura 13.1 and Xcode 14.2.

All dev tools and apps running great with no problems
So how's the battery doing? how many hours does your battery last
 
Depends on your workload, but mine is usually 7-8 hours before it hit 15-20%. I usually plug in at 20-30% battery mark, I don't want to deplete it all the way
It says 5 hours remaining. My battery cycle is 24. Sounds not normal to me.
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I dont know you need more battery info on these m1 MacBook Airs mine can go over 20 hours
and still have 20% left. that was in October and the MacBook runs great with Ventura.

the only snafu is the MBAM1- can't read older USB3 eternal drives, even with a APFS formatted ssd drive.
probably the processor wont read the logic board on the external drive?
 
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