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I had a 2011 i5/4gb/256gb MBA running Lion (10.7) for two years. I never saw any problems. And I ran software like Logic Pro, Final Cut Pro, VectorWorks, Photoshop, FileMaker Pro.

I'm sure there was swapping going on, but I was never aware of it with the fast SSD. Since the new CPUs and disks are faster, it should be even less of a problem. Remember, 4gb was the maximum memory available on the MBA until 2012.

My system had an HDD, so it was very noticeable. An SSD would help tremendously I imagine.
 
I understand that,but what about Yosemite? I keep reading it will need more RAM to work smoothly..
That aside..
The fact that RAM on these machines is fixed and not upgradable bothers me.

There are ways to overcome storage limitation (external HD,SD,and even a good chance likes of Trascend will come up with SSD upgrade kits like they did for older MBAs)..

After all I'm replacing a more powerful machine (processor wise) and have to pay a considerable amount extra on top to get a MBA..I want it to be as future proof as possible..maybe 4 GB RAM works fine now but having zero option to upgrade that is not very encouraging.


I completely understand your hesitation on the ram. It really depends on where you get the MacBook from as to how much the ram upgrade would actually cost you.

For example, a new 13 inch MBA from Apple with the 8/256 configuration will cost 1299. You could pick up a 2013 refurbished 4/256 config from Apple's refurb store for 979. The 2013 and 2014 machines are essentially the same machine.

The ram upgrade in this scenario would be 320, not 100. Additionally, as Joe said, if you can get by with 128, you could get a base model for 700 which then puts you at at over 500 less.

In the end it's your machine and you should get what you want. I was in a similar situation to the above scenario where the ram upgrade would have cost 260 more for me. I am really glad I didn't spend the extra money on ram I don't need. Mavericks is great with memory management and Yosemite will be even better.
 
Both… files are getting bigger and RAM requirements are also getting larger. But if I had to lean towards one or the other, it would be RAM, unless you can access RAM and upgrade at a later time, than I would invest on SSD storage.
 
Like I said,that's what I came accross few times reading beta user coments,so could be wrong..
Still,something to consider.

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The refurb 2013 with 4/256 seems ideal.

Where I live,there is little price difference between refurbed 2013 with 4/256 and the brand new 2014 with 4/128.(both from apple store).
So I'd go for the brand new 2014 anyday,better resale value,and I hate the way refurb macbooks are delivered (with no official box etc).
 
I understand that,but what about Yosemite? I keep reading it will need more RAM to work smoothly..
That aside..
The fact that RAM on these machines is fixed and not upgradable bothers me.

There are ways to overcome storage limitation (external HD,SD,and even a good chance likes of Trascend will come up with SSD upgrade kits like they did for older MBAs)..

After all I'm replacing a more powerful machine (processor wise) and have to pay a considerable amount extra on top to get a MBA..I want it to be as future proof as possible..maybe 4 GB RAM works fine now but having zero option to upgrade that is not very encouraging.

People always say that you absolutely need X amount of RAM, where X is the amount of RAM they bought and now are trying to justify the cost of. Adding to the confusion is the fact that Mavericks and Yosemite will allocate RAM if it is available, which means that the amount of RAM used appears very high. In reality, it doesn't actually need that much and there is no performance difference whatsoever for the overwhelming majority of users.

As to future proofing, you see that argument thrown around a lot (again to justify an unnecessary purchase), but then the same people often go out and buy the newest model every time the line is updated anyway. 4 GB is a lot of space, except for some specialized tasks. Even then, you have RAM compression in OS X to help out. Further, you have a SSD which makes paging to disk quite fast anyway, so it's not a big deal if it does.
 
Where I live,there is little price difference between refurbed 2013 with 4/256 and the brand new 2014 with 4/128.(both from apple store).
So I'd go for the brand new 2014 anyday,better resale value,and I hate the way refurb macbooks are delivered (with no official box etc).
You should be able to get the i5/4/128 2013 brand new for a really good price.
 
Like I said,that's what I came accross few times reading beta user coments,so could be wrong..
Still,something to consider.

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Where I live,there is little price difference between refurbed 2013 with 4/256 and the brand new 2014 with 4/128.(both from apple store).
So I'd go for the brand new 2014 anyday,better resale value,and I hate the way refurb macbooks are delivered (with no official box etc).
Alrighty, then. :)
 
Like I said,that's what I came accross few times reading beta user coments,so could be wrong..
Still,something to consider.

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Where I live,there is little price difference between refurbed 2013 with 4/256 and the brand new 2014 with 4/128.(both from apple store).
So I'd go for the brand new 2014 anyday,better resale value,and I hate the way refurb macbooks are delivered (with no official box etc).

Where do you live?
 
By all means get the 8GB..it's soldered in and you can't change your mind later unless you buy another laptop. It's better to buy too much than to later not have enough. It's only another $100 anyway, albeit overpriced. Also can help resale later.

The SSD you CAN upgrade later. Just be sure you can operate in 100GB if you go for the 128GB model. :cool:
 
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Where do you live?

UK..

(new 2014):
i5/4/128 is GBP 850
i5/8/123 is GBP 930

i5/4/256 is GBP 999
i5/8/256 is GBP 1080

(refurbished 2013):
i5/4/128 GBP 680
i5/4/256 GBP 800

tax is already included in prices here

and I get 750 GBP for my Mid 2011 iMac (21.5",i5 2.5Ghz /4GB /500GB)
 
Definitely RAM

I'm going to have to agree with the majority and say go for 8GB of RAM. It's the one aspect that not only can't be upgraded, but will make the most difference in the future. If your apps can squeeze into a 50gb space, 128 should be fine. Use external storage for large media libraries and the cloud for docs.

And while I'm sure there are varying views on this, I would say keep a minimum of 30% free on an SSD
 
At your quoted prices the difference between the '13 4/128 and '14 8/128 is £250!

That equals 315€ or $420!

If the 2014 manufacturing date and the arguably useless ram upgrade is worth £250 to you then by all means go for it!
 
(refurbished 2013):
i5/4/128 GBP 680
i5/4/256 GBP 800

Either of these are your best bet. There isn't a point in purchasing a 2014 model when the 2013 models are essentially the same thing. If I were you I'd go with that 4/256 refurb for 800.

The only difference between a new model and a refurb is the plastic you get to remove off of the box on arrival. After the box is opened, you have the same thing.
 
RAM. RAM RAM RAM. Did I mention RAM?

RAM is not upgradeable later - SSD is. You can always get the 13" SD card that sits flush:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K73NT0S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


So I've been thinking about replacing my iMac (Mid 2011) with a new 13 Inch MBA (2014).I've been offered a good deal for the iMac so I want to do it ASAP.

I can either afford ordering one with 8GB RAM (instead of standard 4GB) OR with 256GB SSD (Instead of standard 128GB)..

I cannot decide which upgrade will be worth my money,my current iMac has 4GB RAM and is quite alright for my needs but I'm tempted to have a 8GB RAM MBA as it's going to be my main computer at home.

on the other hand,my iMac's 500GB HDD is around 300GB full,it's been like that pretty much all the time..so I definitely have to move some of my files into an external storage if I opt for more RAM which is doable but not very convenient.

which would you say is the more important investment out of two?
is 128GB SSD practical or is it just too small?
is doubling the RAM on these MBAs noticeably improve the performance?
 
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Quite a number of the posters have suggested that the best combination is that of 4 GB RAM and 256 SSD and I tend to agree. As some have argued, all the RAM in the world is of little use if you lack memory with the SSD. I used to have a 2010 MBA with 128 SSD drive, and by last year I found that it was no longer sufficient for my needs.

In any case, if money is an issue, I strongly recommend that you buy a 2013 refurb - there is very little difference between the 2013 and 2014 models. Moreover, with a 2013 refurb, you will probably be able to afford both the 256 SSD drive and 8 GB RAM.

The 2013 models are superb and an enormous improvement over the earlier models in terms of power, speed and duration of battery.

 
I would go with the 8gb of ram only because there is a way to get around not enough storage, but not one to get around not enough ram.

What I ended up doing was buying a PNY StorEdge which sits nearly flush in my SD card slot and adds 128gb
 
My rule of thumb is to always upgrade RAM first. On soldered systems like the MacBook Air, this is doubly true.

Third parties have found ways to upgrade the SSD in the MacBook Air; and with USB 3 and Thunderbolt, you an always add external storage easily at any time. (And if you have the 13" model, you can even get a "flush-fit" SD card made just for the MBA to add up to 128 GB in a removable form factor that doesn't stick out the side. Of course, it won't fit in to many other systems directly.)

But RAM on the MBA, you're stuck with what you buy. While your workload right now may not "need" more than the stock amount - if you plan on keeping the laptop for 3-4 years (or more,) it WILL start to become more important. (My family tends to keep and use laptops for a long time - my wife just upgraded from a mid-07 MacBook Pro to a MacBook Air. I'm still on a mid-2007 iMac. Both had been upgraded multiple times.)
 
Definitely RAM. No way to supplement that later, unlike what you can do with external or cloud-based storage.
 
Definitely RAM. No way to supplement that later, unlike what you can do with external or cloud-based storage.
Depending on what you do an external storage unit defeats the purpose of a laptop.
Cloud base storage is not practical for large amounts of date unless you have an unlimited lte streaming plan.
Even then you are **** out of luck if you are in an area with no cell coverage.
 
If you are still looking for advice, go for bigger 256 GB SSD.

I have a Mid-2011 1.7 i5 MBA on Mavericks with 4GB. It is still as fast today as it was when I bought it. I have never "run out" of RAM, Mavericks is efficient, the SSD is super fast, I get no spinning wheels.

I will be able to keep this computer for another 3-4 years or more. It's flawless.
 
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