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I was considering one of these but decided to replace my mid 2010 13" MacBook Pro with a 11" MacBook Air i7, 8GB Ram, 256GB SSD. I think there's something very special about owning an Apple product that no other company can replicate . Specs, price, build quality, re-sale value and the ability to run both OSX and Windows 7 taken in to consideration I believe the Air is still the best :)

I do think Apple needs to come out with a new design, would have liked to have seen a MacBook Air in carbon with a more screen less bezel.
 
It's too early to decide which is better. Lenovo started taking orders on 8/14 and just started shipping in the past few days. Let real customers beat on it for 3-6 months then you'll know how the X1 Carbon stands up. I don't think it's going to be the top dog. Lenovo failed to put a premium screen on the X1 Carbon so there's still room for another maker to really build an "Ultra" notebook.

Now if Apple would only announce a 13.3" Retina MacBook Air next week... :D
 
The i7 in the MBA is most definitely *not* a quad.... Also, Lenovo's warranty is far better than applecare in what it will cover, though not in ease of using it (no Lenovo stores)

It should be noted that if you're at a university, many of their IT departments and the like count as Lenovo authorized service centers.
 
Software is only half of the equation... plus I'm not a big fan of dual booting or using virtualization software.

VM's do pretty much suck (using my Whitebook 5,2 with an SSD and 4Gb of 800 Mhz DDR2 RAM that was supposed to never be able to work in my model a generation of Whitebook before :apple: officially supported it) but using bootcamp winXP runs fine (although a little hotter than OSX)...so I wouldn't figure that win7 would have much trouble running off bootcamp either.
 
Finally my BTO X1 Carbon was delivered yesterday.

ThinkPad X1 Carbon
Intel Core i7-3667U Processor
(4M Cache, up to 3.20 GHz)
Windows 7 Professional (64 bit)
14.0" Premium HD+ (1600x900) LED Backlit Display,
720p HD Camera, Mobile Broadband Equipped
8 GB PC3-10600 DDR3L SDRAM
1333MHz Memory (1 DIMM)
Keyboard (Backlit) US English
TrackPoint with Fingerprint Reader and Clickpad
256GB Solid State Drive

I'm very happy to report that the optional hi-res anti-glare display is 300 nits. Very bright, it's the brightest I've had on a ThinkPad. This is one gorgeous display. Compared side by side with the 15" IPS of my T60 it's so close to the same, I'm very surprised. the bottom line is upon ordering my only concern was the display. Now seeing it in person, that concern is gone.

Arriving at 9:45am yesterday I had the majority of the day to compare it to my much liked 2012 13" MBA. In real world use these two are very close. I was very happy to get Win 7 on the X1 as I've already got it optimized on my T430s so I knew how I wanted it.

After a full afternoon with these two, it really comes down to personal preference. It's a choice I'm lucky not to have to make.

I'll be enjoying them both for the foreseeable future.
 
Finally my BTO X1 Carbon was delivered yesterday.

ThinkPad X1 Carbon
Intel Core i7-3667U Processor
(4M Cache, up to 3.20 GHz)
Windows 7 Professional (64 bit)
14.0" Premium HD+ (1600x900) LED Backlit Display,
720p HD Camera, Mobile Broadband Equipped
8 GB PC3-10600 DDR3L SDRAM
1333MHz Memory (1 DIMM)
Keyboard (Backlit) US English
TrackPoint with Fingerprint Reader and Clickpad
256GB Solid State Drive

I'm very happy to report that the optional hi-res anti-glare display is 300 nits. Very bright, it's the brightest I've had on a ThinkPad. This is one gorgeous display. Compared side by side with the 15" IPS of my T60 it's so close to the same, I'm very surprised. the bottom line is upon ordering my only concern was the display. Now seeing it in person, that concern is gone.

Arriving at 9:45am yesterday I had the majority of the day to compare it to my much liked 2012 13" MBA. In real world use these two are very close. I was very happy to get Win 7 on the X1 as I've already got it optimized on my T430s so I knew how I wanted it.

After a full afternoon with these two, it really comes down to personal preference. It's a choice I'm lucky not to have to make.

I'll be enjoying them both for the foreseeable future.

How did you get the i7 + 8GB ram model? Lenovo has said that it wouldn't be available for at least a few weeks. Regardless, glad to hear you like the display, how's the trackpad perform compared to the MBA? And does the machine get hot?
 
Finally my BTO X1 Carbon was delivered yesterday.

ThinkPad X1 Carbon
Intel Core i7-3667U Processor
(4M Cache, up to 3.20 GHz)
Windows 7 Professional (64 bit)
14.0" Premium HD+ (1600x900) LED Backlit Display,
720p HD Camera, Mobile Broadband Equipped
8 GB PC3-10600 DDR3L SDRAM
1333MHz Memory (1 DIMM)
Keyboard (Backlit) US English
TrackPoint with Fingerprint Reader and Clickpad
256GB Solid State Drive

I'm very happy to report that the optional hi-res anti-glare display is 300 nits. Very bright, it's the brightest I've had on a ThinkPad. This is one gorgeous display. Compared side by side with the 15" IPS of my T60 it's so close to the same, I'm very surprised. the bottom line is upon ordering my only concern was the display. Now seeing it in person, that concern is gone.

Arriving at 9:45am yesterday I had the majority of the day to compare it to my much liked 2012 13" MBA. In real world use these two are very close. I was very happy to get Win 7 on the X1 as I've already got it optimized on my T430s so I knew how I wanted it.

After a full afternoon with these two, it really comes down to personal preference. It's a choice I'm lucky not to have to make.

I'll be enjoying them both for the foreseeable future.

It sounds like a very good machine. Out of curiosity, what made you purchase a T430s, a 2012 MBA and an X1C?!
 
It sounds like a very good machine. Out of curiosity, what made you purchase a T430s, a 2012 MBA and an X1C?!
I work in a cross platform R&D environment, I also travel internationally for work.

In addition I'm a complete addict when it comes to mobile computing & communications. I've used PowerBooks, MBP's, & ThinkPads concurrently for two decades.

The list of smartphones of various platforms is equally as numerous. The variety keeps things interesting.

I simply enjoy what I do & work to stay thoroughly current with the technology I use.
 
How did you get the i7 + 8GB ram model? Lenovo has said that it wouldn't be available for at least a few weeks. Regardless, glad to hear you like the display, how's the trackpad perform compared to the MBA? And does the machine get hot?
I work for a multinational company that has been purchasing ThinkPads since they were first released. Therefore when I use that account I can get any ThinkPad configured anyway I wish. We get high priority consideration since we buy thousands of ThinkPads for our worldwide operations.

The trackpad is the best yet, for a ThinkPad, is nearly as good as the one on my Mac, sans Apples exemplary gestures.

In typical ThinkPad fashion, it runs very cool even after pushing it hard, due to their continued priority on thermal management. The Carbon Fiber Chassis is much better at dissipating heat as compared to aluminum.

Although close in weight, it feels light as a feather. Truly an amazing machine.
 
There is another reason why someone should go for the Thinkpad over the MBA...

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I work for a multinational company that has been purchasing ThinkPads since they were first released. Therefore when I use that account I can get any ThinkPad configured anyway I wish. We get high priority consideration since we buy thousands of ThinkPads for our worldwide operations.

The trackpad is the best yet, for a ThinkPad, is nearly as good as the one on my Mac, sans Apples exemplary gestures.

In typical ThinkPad fashion, it runs very cool even after pushing it hard, due to their continued priority on thermal management. The Carbon Fiber Chassis is much better at dissipating heat as compared to aluminum.

Although close in weight, it feels light as a feather. Truly an amazing machine.

You're the first one I've seen who's spoke positively on heat and thermal management. I wonder why so many reviews talk down on the display and heat/noise.

Of course I'll withhold judgement until I have mine in hand.
 
You're the first one I've seen who's spoke positively on heat and thermal management. I wonder why so many reviews talk down on the display and heat/noise.
The standard display is rather dull, thus I agree with those who are critical of it. Conversely the hi-res display is wonderful.

Like anything else, the writer of the review may be biased against ThinkPads & feel compelled to complain about something, after all they're not all experts.

Nor do many of them know about, or pay attention to the years of innovation & refinement Lenovo has invested in thermal management for their top of the line T & X series ThinkPads.

As their business black form factor indicates, they've been focused on the corporate space since well back in the IBM days.

Finally ThinkPads are extremely unique in the fact that unlike the simplicity of Apple, Lenovo offers literally hundreds of widely different configurations in T series as just one example. All built using the same housing, they look identical on the outside yet are infinitely different on the inside.
 
Get the Lenovo.

It's a far superior computer to the Macbook Air.

However, wait for a 13" Retina Macbook Pro, and then we'll talk then.
 
Formerly known as TABOOK, the new list of Lenovo Laptops, are now called Personal Systems Reference (PSREF) sheets. If you read this page carefully you'll notice their list of models is so vast, each category, model line, and type has their own .PDF.

Available only to the corporate buyers for years, and now available publicly, the great majority are unaware of this resource.

Lenovo has a retail division that is completely separate & different from the corporate side.

I believe those who take the time to explore will be fascinated at the depth & breadth of Lenovo.

http://www.lenovo.com:80/psref/
 
I use to be a big-time Thinkpad fan and bought several models over the years. I loved the keyboard and trackpoint (eraser head). I'm a very fast touch-typist and the trackpoint was a must-have for me. At one point I became intrigued by the idea of getting a Macbook (so that I could delve into iOS programming), but the lack of the trackpoint held me back. I've found that people who aren't touch-typists and who have never used/appreciated a trackpoint just won't understand how great they are. I had tried using the touchpads on my Thinkpads a few times, just to see why people liked them, but I always hated it.

At one point, I was due for an upgrade at work, and went with a Dell that had a trackpoint (or some knock-off of the concept). It was horrible. Horrible keyboard, horrible "trackpoint" feel. And too big and heavy. I quickly swapped with someone else at work to go back to a Thinkpad.

Another year or so later I was due for an upgrade again (my laptop got broken), and several other people at work had already switched over to using Macbooks, so I decided to give it a shot and got a Macbook Air 13".

Well, I have to say that the Mac's touchpad was like a night-and-day difference between the old Thinkpad touchpads I had tried. First, it was much, much larger. Then there were the gestures. My Air has Parallels installed but I really only use it for doing some VPN/Remote Desktop needs where a couple of our clients don't support the VPN from the Mac-side.

I still miss the ability of keeping my hands on the keyboard and still moving the mouse around with the trackpoint, but I've mostly adjusted, and there are several other things that the touchpad allows me to easily do that couldn't be done with a trackpoint.

Anyways, sorry for the long diatribe, but I just wanted to highlight one really tempting feature of that Thinkpad that only some of us will appreciate. I see now, too, that these Thinkpads have much larger touchpads than the older Thinkpads had, so it may be the best of both worlds there.

That Thinkpad's larger, higher-resolution screen is also tempting. The glossy vs matte screen isn't a big deal for me, but I know that I prefer my Air's bright glossy screen to the never-bright-enough Thinkpad screens I've had in the past (it sounds like that's a non-issue with this Thinkpad).

One advantage to the Air, though, is that you have the option (for extra $$$) to buy/install Parallels and Windows, and be able to jump across as needed. With this Thinkpad, maybe you can turn it into a Hackintosh (?) but when I looked into that idea a long while back, it seemed like it required a lot of time and hacking to get right, and even then there would be certain hardware features that likely didn't have support. Plus, it's unsupported by Apple, and you probably couldn't stay as current with Mac OS software updates. If you have a need/desire to use Mac OS (e.g., iOS software development), that right there would be the biggest deal-killer with the Thinkpad.

Someone earlier mentioned heat being a possible issue (someone else later said that their Thinkpad Carbon didn't have any such issue). In any case, that would be something else I'd worry about. I seem to have a knack for hitting my 4GB RAM limit on my Air, and then the heat kicks up and fan gets going. It seems like I shouldn't be running into major memory issues, so maybe it's just because I hardly ever shut my Air down, and instead always just close the lid and let it go into sleep mode, so it probably just needs a more frequent reboot to clear RAM up? In any case, if I could have 8GB on my Air, I'd be happier. I literally use my Air as a "lap" top most of the time, so having a cool-running laptop is a must for me.
 
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The Carbon Fiber Chassis is much better at dissipating heat as compared to aluminum.

That's a badass laptop that you own but I don't know if I can believe than carbon fiber dissipates heat better than aluminum. It's just cloth superheated and molded. I don't see how fiber conducts heat. There must be aluminum or some other material inside the chassis or more vents to push out heat.
 
That's a badass laptop that you own but I don't know if I can believe than carbon fiber dissipates heat better than aluminum. It's just cloth superheated and molded. I don't see how fiber conducts heat. There must be aluminum or some other material inside the chassis or more vents to push out heat.

I would encourage you to learn what carbon fiber is before jumping to an erroneous conclusion. It's superior ability to dissipate heat is the very reason the brake rotors on formula one racers are made solely from carbon fiber. That is but one small example of the thousands of applications.

Furthermore like other materials there are many grades & compositions. True high grade Carbon Fibre (as it's spelled in the UK) is very expensive. Lesser grades that barely qualify as carbon fiber are devoid of it's advantages.

Cheap imitations are everywhere due to the popularity of it's appearance. in fact it's been estimated that 81% percent of aftermarket accessories in the automotive industry are either fakes or substandard grade material.
 
I got the Spectre XT and the funny thing is, everyone at first glance thinks its a macbook air :rolleyes:. Thinkpad is a bom... I'm thinking about returning hp' for this one, for less money after student discount its a much better laptop for those that really want Windows.
 
I would encourage you to learn what carbon fiber is before jumping to an erroneous conclusion. It's superior ability to dissipate heat is the very reason the brake rotors on formula one racers are made solely from carbon fiber. That is but one small example of the thousands of applications.

Furthermore like other materials there are many grades & compositions. True high grade Carbon Fibre (as it's spelled in the UK) is very expensive. Lesser grades that barely qualify as carbon fiber are devoid of it's advantages.

Cheap imitations are everywhere due to the popularity of it's appearance. in fact it's been estimated that 81% percent of aftermarket accessories in the automotive industry are either fakes or substandard grade material.

Your general statements about carbon's use in extreme applications like motogp and f1 is ok but I don't believe that Lenovo would invest in a legit carbon-carbon chassis for a limited production. It's likely they used an economical grade of carbon versus the latest found in racing.
 
The Carbon looks nice, especially the larger display. The keyboards are probably about the same. I don't know how good the trackpad is, and in my opinion the trackpad is one of the best things about Apple laptops.

Something else interesting is that the only way to get 8GB RAM on the Carbon is to order the $1679 model. With the Air you can choose that option even on the base model.

I don't know about the X1, but generally think pad keyboards are the best I've used. I much prefer them to Apple keyboards. The apples have much better trackpads though

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I would encourage you to learn what carbon fiber is before jumping to an erroneous conclusion. It's superior ability to dissipate heat is the very reason the brake rotors on formula one racers are made solely from carbon fiber. That is but one small example of the thousands of applications.

Furthermore like other materials there are many grades & compositions. True high grade Carbon Fibre (as it's spelled in the UK) is very expensive. Lesser grades that barely qualify as carbon fiber are devoid of it's advantages.

Cheap imitations are everywhere due to the popularity of it's appearance. in fact it's been estimated that 81% percent of aftermarket accessories in the automotive industry are either fakes or substandard grade material.

Carbon fiber reinforced polymers are not the same as carbon fiber reinforced ceramics. The ceramic is what lends to the extreme heat tolerances
 
I don't know about the X1, but generally think pad keyboards are the best I've used. I much prefer them to Apple keyboards. The apples have much better trackpads though

The newer Thinkpads have switched to the chiclet/island style keyboard, very similar to that used on the Macbook line. They may still use higher quality switch mechanisms, not sure.
 
The Samsung Series 9 13" model has a 1600x900 PLS screen that is matte and 400 nits bright. Someone on YouTube unboxed two of them this year and he makes the trackpad look usable. Looks great too. When I saw the Retina Pro I thought it looked like a silver Series 9.

Definitely wait to see if the 13" Retina appears though. If it does it will have all of these machines beat.
 
The Samsung Series 9 13" model has a 1600x900 PLS screen that is matte and 400 nits bright. Someone on YouTube unboxed two of them this year and he makes the trackpad look usable. Looks great too. When I saw the Retina Pro I thought it looked like a silver Series 9.

Definitely wait to see if the 13" Retina appears though. If it does it will have all of these machines beat.

Yeah I considered the new Series 9 also, but ultimately decided against it. I tried it in person at the Microsoft Store and the screen is flawless on the 13" model, really gorgeous- puts the MBA to shame quite honestly. It's also thinner and lighter. However, the keyboard feels terrible- very shallow, the trackpad seemed really good but not perfect, and the configurations it comes in weren't very good, there was no i7, 256gb, 8gb ram options. Only comes in i5, 128gb, 4gb which was the main dealbreaker for me. Very nice looking machine though, especially the screen (go figure with Samsung making some killer hdtvs etc.). It's also quite pricey, especially for what you get.
 
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