MBP 13" 2015 is unable to play 4k 60fps video?

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  1. KVertu macrumors newbie

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    I tried to watch a 4k 60fps video on Youtube and the video stuttered a lot, while, a 4k 30fps ran smoothly. Does this mean mbp 13 cpu is unable to handle 4k 60fps video or there is problem with my mbp?
     
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  3. JTToft macrumors 68040

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    - Probably, yes. I assume you have checked internet connection related issues. 4K 60fps is insane stuff.
     
  4. KVertu thread starter macrumors newbie

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    My bandwidth is 20Mbps, but I waited the video finish loading before playing video
     
  5. JTToft macrumors 68040

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    - My more powerful 2011 quad-core has trouble, too. Plays for 3 seconds, pauses for 1 second, plays for 3, pauses for 1, and so on. How are your symptoms?
     
  6. KVertu thread starter macrumors newbie

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    My symptom is that video stuttered randomly, it plays 3 secs and pause and then plays 1 or 2 secs and pauses again
     
  7. Samuelsan2001 macrumors 604

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    No your computer should be able to play 4K 60fps, but you will need a bare minimum of 25Mbps ( more like 50Mbps to be honest for smooth layback) internet connection to stream it (assuming you are only trying to do that one thing on the connection).

    If you have an internet connected 4K tv you'll be better off using the in built app, if you are using the MacBook screen then why bother it isn't a 4K screen just stream 1080p 60 fps it'll look just as good.
     
  8. KVertu thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I tried to download and watch offline but the video still stuttered. My issue is the same as this video from another user:
     
  9. JTToft macrumors 68040

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    - Can yours? Example. Note that neither Safari nor Firefox support it. You must use Chrome.

    - Is that video supposed to be slow motion, or is that the way the problem shows itself for that user? Because mine is different. Mine plays smoothly for 2-3 seconds, then pauses entirely for 1 second, and keeps going like that pretty consistently.

    Just to dispel the internet connection issue completely (it can be easily distinguished from actual playback issues, but whatever), I'm on 60/60 Mbps and can stream the video faster than it can play.
     
  10. KVertu thread starter macrumors newbie

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    No ,that video is 4k 60fps, the issue is that it becomes slow motion on my mbp when watching offline. if I watch online on youtube, the video will stuttered
     
  11. wksj macrumors member

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    Nothing to do with internet speed. My 13" MBPr can't really handle 4K videos either.
     
  12. hiddenmarkov macrumors 6502a

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    Looked at this video ( I think) and a few others.

    Browser issues could be a source. I am safari so cranked up I got problems I expected to see, safari not on the list. Lower settings looked fine. 15' mid 15 mbp

    Encoding can be an issue. Saw a few comments in a few kpop ones this recommended but I think it was this one where codec guidance was given as some issues at first. Some commentators asked for source in fact. An eye to other friendlier codec conversions assumed.

    Also could be the software. Never worked with what they use. something about .lge output files. Quick googling seems to show one off converters for these. Youtubers didn't mention what is used in workflow either. Won't speak good or ill of them since never touched this. All I know is with my new entry into vdslr exporting is where things can just as get interesting just as well as shooting and editing. Video work has been more for home use and its an apple device house basically (if you take away a windows and couple Linux virtuals I have for testing in paralles lol). Only recently have I looked at tweaking exports for other setups tbh.
     
  13. leman macrumors G3

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    Most likely issues with codec implementation. The CPU/GPU in that machine has more then bought processing power to decode 4K at 60 fps.
     
  14. Samuelsan2001 macrumors 604

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    Mine is a 2013 with IRIS 5100 graphics I would expect it to struggle the 6100 in the 2015 is rated to run 4K fine.
     
  15. raymond7 macrumors member

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    If i try the big bunny 4K 60FPS video offline it works buttery smooth :D, its mp4 tho. Think its maybe encoding related...
     
  16. RoboWarriorSr macrumors 6502a

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    I think it has to do with software. I downloaded a 4K .265 video in mp4 but quicktime wasn't able to replace it. Since it should be technically playable (according to Intel Broadwell is able to decode using a mixture of CPU and GPU) I'm guessing Apple hasn't placed priority in creating the software to decode it. Granted I played in same file under mpv but utilized 100% CPU and framerate was abysmal.
     
  17. jobs.jdfournier macrumors newbie

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    I see stuttering on anything full screen on a 4k monitor. Even playing a simple browser game like Agar.io isn't smooth. However if I shrink the window size it eventually plays smooth.
     
  18. priitv8 macrumors 68040

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    Why not? Why Chrome? The only thing there is to remember is to revert back to Flash for 4K playback, if you happen to have ClickToFlash installed. But this Transformers video plays back in my Safari without problems.
     
  19. macbook_21 macrumors regular

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    I tried playing the 4K 60fps video linked in post 9. This was with a 90 Mbps connection. It still will not play smoothly.
     
  20. JTToft, Feb 3, 2016
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    - YouTube ditched Flash a long time ago. It uses HTML5 by default now. Not sure you can even manually set it to Flash anymore...

    The video might be playing, but is it playing in 4K 60fps? Check the quality settings in the video.
     
  21. priitv8 macrumors 68040

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    Not really. Try to use ClickToFlash Flash blocker and you will see. In HTML5/MP4 rendition, max resolution you can see is 720p.
    Screen Shot 2016-02-04 at 7.50.19.PNG To see 1080p or above resolutions, you need to switch back to Flash. It may well be just a wrapper around the H.264/265 video, but Flash is there:
    Screen Shot 2016-02-04 at 7.54.23.PNG Screen Shot 2016-02-04 at 7.50.42.PNG
    In Safari, I see only 2160p, but not the framerate:
    Screen Shot 2016-02-04 at 7.51.17.PNG
     
  22. JTToft macrumors 68040

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    - I can see up to 1080p60fps in Safari with HTML5 (in other words, the standard player). Up to 2160p60fps in Chrome.

    Screen Shot 2016-02-04 at 13.25.55.png Screen Shot 2016-02-04 at 13.26.19.png

    - You mind telling me how to force the Flash player? I'm curious.
    (ClickToFlash is outdated and no longer supported in Safari, according to their website.)

    - That means it's not 60fps. Nothing is stated if it's normal framerate, but "60" is specifically displayed when it's 60fps.
    Like I said, Safari doesn't support it.
     
  23. priitv8, Feb 4, 2016
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    priitv8 macrumors 68040

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    Dunno. Still works for me:
    Screen Shot 2016-02-05 at 0.11.05.PNG
    But you are right - the Flash player is phony. When running it without CTF, it allows me to select max 1080p resolution. When I run it via CTF and re-enable Flash, I can see up to 2160p, without framerate given. I can see the quality change to up to 1440p from there on not any more, because my monitor maxes out at 1440.
     
  24. BeastMode335i macrumors newbie

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    I noticed mine does this as well when I upload videos from my 4K GoPro.. At first I thought it was my memory card but the videos play fine on my 4k samsung tv so I assume it's my late 2012 rMBP that can't handle the graphics..??
     

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