MBP 17 or MBP 15 2012

jcmendes

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Aug 22, 2012
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Hello lionman, you bought one? ;)

I bought.

The especifications are:

Laptot Intel® Core™ i7 - 2,40GHz (2ª Geração) / LED 17" / 4096MB / 750GB / Mac OS X Lion / SuperDrive / Intel HD Graphics 3000 + ATI Radeon HD 6770M / WebCam.

I have one MBP15" late 2010, but i want more screen, so i talk to several persons, and they tell me the screen is almost retina, of couse, no so so good, but very approximate.


we'll see if it will be a good business and trade.

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Link in portuguese:

http://www.worten.pt/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=04824112&oid=3|69856&c=camp_3661
 

clyde2801

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Thanks for your answer ! This is going to be used like a desktop replacement, I do not have the slightest intention to carry it with me (for that purpose I use my iPad).
Ditto! I went from a 2011 13" MBA and I love, love, love this glossy Samsung screen! Better contrast than the matte. Got a helluva deal for mine on Craigslist for $1450 USD (2 months old at the time) and used some of the savings to upgrade to 16gb of ram and a 512gb Crucial M4. Complete overkill, of course...:D

It may be possible to find a good deal on one if any existing 17" mbp owners in your part of the pasture catch the Retina bug and want to upgrade.

I took a hard look at the Retina, but my middle aged eyes were possibly too shot to fully appreciate it. That, and the lack of apps (Pages wasn't upgraded for the retina then, for crying out loud!), lack of upgradeability and 'Revision A' qualms kept me from getting one. No regrets whatsoever about my 17".
 

lionmanpt

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Original poster
Jan 1, 2011
115
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Hello lionman, you bought one? ;)

I bought.

The especifications are:

Laptot Intel® Core™ i7 - 2,40GHz (2ª Geração) / LED 17" / 4096MB / 750GB / Mac OS X Lion / SuperDrive / Intel HD Graphics 3000 + ATI Radeon HD 6770M / WebCam.

I have one MBP15" late 2010, but i want more screen, so i talk to several persons, and they tell me the screen is almost retina, of couse, no so so good, but very approximate.


we'll see if it will be a good business and trade.

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Link in portuguese:

http://www.worten.pt/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=04824112&oid=3|69856&c=camp_3661
Yes I bought one :)

Still waiting for a dispatch......

Everyone tells me they are brand new and sealed. I will not accept a non sealed unit.
 

sofianito

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Jan 14, 2011
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Yes it was available in Portugal on a retail store on a "24 hour happy day" they promoted yesterday..........
I just found the information on forum.zwame.pt :D

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Here is the link with the specs:

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook-pro-core-i7-2.4-17-late-2011-unibody-thunderbolt-specs.html

Price: 1.600 Euros ( 1994 USD). The previous price was 2.499 Euros ( 3.115 USD).
Did they increase the price? It is now at 1,990.00€!
 

SlyMac

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Jun 16, 2008
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For me, when I was looking at 15" and 17" pros, it came down to me not wanting to lug around that extra screen real estate. I use my macbook as a desktop replacement and as an "on the go" laptop. When I'm at home, I use an external monitor (clamshell mode) so the extra screen space on the laptop was unnessesary. For you it may be different. You may want the extra screen size, the express card slot, etc. that the 17 comes with.
 

sofianito

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Jan 14, 2011
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2
Spain
Hello lionman, you bought one? ;)

I bought.

The especifications are:

Laptot Intel® Core™ i7 - 2,40GHz (2ª Geração) / LED 17" / 4096MB / 750GB / Mac OS X Lion / SuperDrive / Intel HD Graphics 3000 + ATI Radeon HD 6770M / WebCam.

I have one MBP15" late 2010, but i want more screen, so i talk to several persons, and they tell me the screen is almost retina, of couse, no so so good, but very approximate.


we'll see if it will be a good business and trade.

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Link in portuguese:

http://www.worten.pt/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=04824112&oid=3|69856&c=camp_3661
Muito obrigado. Você tem um bom karma :), não como seu companheiro ele quer só para ele... :D
 
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mrobit

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Mar 7, 2012
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No. Pixel density can matter but color can still suck on them. They could have way high response times causing headaches and blurring windows. Backlights can bleed, etc etc etc.
Everyone I know that have a 17" plan on a 15" or complete reactionary 13" next time they buy. Too big and heavy (Apple apparently felt similarly). In the end it is all about the screen. Do you need it? Probably not if you are planning on an external display. 1920x1200 on 17" is pretty small text res as well. AND Ivy bridge runs cooler and 2012 MBP's have faster GPU's.
I can see this - I've got a 17" right now and I love it, but for my next machine I can definitely see myself getting a smaller machine (well, of course - because they don't sell 17"s anymore but that's besides the point.)

The screen is very nice and it would be hard to go back to screen with a standard pixel density (like a 1440x900) but at the same time a smaller screen like that really does make a difference.
 

sofianito

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Jan 14, 2011
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I can see this - I've got a 17" right now and I love it, but for my next machine I can definitely see myself getting a smaller machine (well, of course - because they don't sell 17"s anymore but that's besides the point.)

The screen is very nice and it would be hard to go back to screen with a standard pixel density (like a 1440x900) but at the same time a smaller screen like that really does make a difference.
Did you compare it with a 1680x1050 resolution?
 

lionmanpt

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Original poster
Jan 1, 2011
115
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I just found the information on forum.zwame.pt :D

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Did they increase the price? It is now at 1,990.00€!
Probabilly they did. They tend to do 24 hour happy days, where they choose a couple of items with cheaper prices.

I came up with this info because I was on forum.zwame.com.

They do inform of the 24 hour campaigns on their facebook page (I do not know why it escaped me)
 

jcmendes

macrumors regular
Aug 22, 2012
132
23
Portugal
Yes the price is UP again, the promo is end.

I thing we did a good deal. 1.600€ against 1.999€.

I always love MPB 17, but i never loved the price, with this change, i could not wast.

So, waiting for the machine.
 

jcmendes

macrumors regular
Aug 22, 2012
132
23
Portugal
After testing this excellent machine, I upgraded to 16G (corsair), and an intel SSD330 240g, just the day after the purchase.

This is a dream machine, the screen is fantastic, almost retina, I think after seeing a rMBP, the difference is not at all, so significant that a normal model of 15 ".

For those who can still opt for a 17 "model, cheaper than rMBP, will not regret anything.

sorry for any mistake
 

elchorizo

macrumors member
Jul 9, 2012
69
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Beaverton, OR
MBP 17 (new in a sealed box) vs MBP 15 (also new with 750GB HDD) 2012 (latest version).

Both go for the same price. Which one would you choose ?
You didn't give a lot of info about your needs, so, based on my needs I'd choose the 17 in a second. 1920x1200 ftw. Then again, I'm a resolution whore :)