I know this is probably another rehashed question thread that people will swear at me for posting it, but I like second opinions. (and third, and fourth, etc.) http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC024LL/A - This is something I am highly considering purchasing. A 17" seems really convenient to have for what I do (web design/development - I'm frequently running a lot of windows.) For what it is, the price is pretty good - I'm considering waiting for the refresh/redesign coming up but at the same time I'm not sure how worth it is is, nor how "worth it" this model is. A dual-core i5 is enough for me, considering I've been running on a Core2Duo for the past four years so it would be a great boost in performance. 17" just seems badass for a screen size haha. BUT at the same time this machine doesn't have thunderbolt, nor does it have Lion. Now, with not having thunderbolt - how many people use thunderbolt, and actually find it useful/necessary? A lack of USB3.0 is also somewhat concerning but at the same time I'm not sure what massive files I would have to transfer anyway.