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Mbp 17

also, on the mbp 17" tech spec from apple.com it reads:

4GB (two 2GB SO-DIMMs) of 1333MHz DDR3 memory; two SO-DIMM slots support up to 8GB


does this mean each slot can hold 8gb or together up 2 8gb

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just saw the previous replies, thanks for that, afterall, i am holding out for the new models, im sure we will chat about this again!
 
J.L.Photography said:
Ok so here is where im lost... are there credible differences between...

1333 pc3-10600
1333 pc3-10660
1333 pc3-10666
1600 pc3-12800

what comes on the regular 4gb mac memory and if id upgrade, which would i want?
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The 4th one isn't even the same type of RAM. There isn't "Apple only" RAM, but there is computer specific RAM that only your computer will use.
 
J.L.Photography said:
also, on the mbp 17" tech spec from apple.com it reads:

4GB (two 2GB SO-DIMMs) of 1333MHz DDR3 memory; two SO-DIMM slots support up to 8GB


does this mean each slot can hold 8gb or together up 2 8gb

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just saw the previous replies, thanks for that, afterall, i am holding out for the new models, im sure we will chat about this again!
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In Apple's terms it is a total of 8GB (2x4GB). ALthough the chipsets support the 16GB and it works fine, Apple's stance is the MBP only "Officially" support 8GB of RAM total.

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MonkeyBrainz said:
The 4th one isn't even the same type of RAM.
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Yes it is the same type of RAM, it is DDR3, it is just clocked at a higher speed (1600 mHz whereas the others are clocked at 1333 mHz).

As for Apple RAM, it is usually no different, just that some manufacturers fully test it with Apple products (and some get it certified for Apple compatibility) so it generally yields less compatibility issues is all. But I have seen no difference is functionality between the two, and as long as it works you should see none either.
 
squeakr said:
Yes it is the same type of RAM, it is DDR3, it is just clocked at a higher speed (1600 mHz whereas the others are clocked at 1333 mHz).

As for Apple RAM, it is usually no different, just that some manufacturers fully test it with Apple products (and some get it certified for Apple compatibility) so it generally yields less compatibility issues is all. But I have seen no difference is functionality between the two, and as long as it works you should see none either.
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Derp...

Yep, they are both 240-pin DDR3. -_-

*puts down crack pipe*
 
I'm just finally excited to spend $3000 on a laptop that will be just as reliable & fast 3-5 years from now, aposed to spending as much if not more on multiple windows platforms that are just proven to slow over time.

Agreed on above and justifiable on cost?
 
J.L.Photography said:
I'm just finally excited to spend $3000 on a laptop that will be just as reliable & fast 3-5 years from now, aposed to spending as much if not more on multiple windows platforms that are just proven to slow over time.

Agreed on above and justifiable on cost?
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Not agreed on the fact that Windows are "proven" to slow over time. If you maintain your system correctly it will have longevity and speed comparable to Mac systems over the years. I have a Pentium 4 that most thought wast a high end C2D or entry first generation quad when they used my system. With the right components and tuning even older systems can still fly.
 
phyrexia said:
\The last one, 1600 pc3-12800, is faster, but is it noticeably so? I do not know firsthand. I bet not.
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No matter how much faster the RAM you install is, it will clock to whatever the CPU dictates. For this model MacBook Pro it's 1333mhz, no greater.
 
Not much less, but certainly less.

No antivirus to install, no DLL issues, installed programs are less likely to make a mess and crap all over your hard drive, so forth.

However, you will probably run into minor issues that would require repairing permissions (five-minute process) and finding ways to remove certain processes that are stubborn and continue to run even after it has been uninstalled.
There is software that will just bug you in that way, Carbonite and all antivirus programs are what I've encountered. They're just pest-ware. I always prefer using the Mac App Store as a source when possible, which would eliminate this issue.
 
If you do install any antivirus software on your Mac, you will have done worse for yourself than a malicious virus would...
 
J.L.Photography said:
I understand, but macs require much less maintenance?
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I would say for the average user the maintenance required is "probably" less. Although with Windows now scheduling the maintenance, it is seamless just as well. I run mostly Mac, but run Windows Media Center as is just so integrated and seamless for me and the family (haven't tried Plex so it might be a good alternative, but that is the only one I have found for OSX that seems to fill the void that would be created by Media Center) for handling media needs and using full remote control capability. Having said that it runs 24/7 and has for 2.5 years without any maintenance on my part, other than gleaning the file system of excess recorded files no longer needed occasionally (but I have to do the same on my Mac as well).


I prefer OSX any given day, but Windows 7 has done a wonderful job and is very much a viable alternative in this day and age. I like both equally and am forced to use Windows everyday for my work (although I do so in a VM on my MBP) and find I have just as few maintenance concerns, although I am very computer literate and conscious of my habits to not open myself up to excess maintenance needs.

The beauty of a Mac is that it just works out of the box. The drivers are provided by Apple to support the hardware they approve of, so the issues of incompatibility are greatly lessened. When a new program is installed, the files are all there, one doesn't have to worry about driver compatibility issues generally as they do with comparable Windows systems.
 
iDecker said:
No matter how much faster the RAM you install is, it will clock to whatever the CPU dictates. For this model MacBook Pro it's 1333mhz, no greater.
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Oh, I thought everyone had concluded it runs at 1600 in the 2011 MBPs.
 
J.L.Photography said:
So ive always used norton antivirus for windows. Do I need one for macs
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As stated you don't need it, and it can cause more issues than it is worth. As for Norton...this explains why you have the "proven" slow down in Windows. Norton, although it has gotten better over the last few years, is a resource hog and will bring a good system to its knees. On my Windows systems where I need AV, I run Microsoft Security Essentials. It is a lot easier on the system than most AV programs out there.

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phyrexia said:
Oh, I thought everyone had concluded it runs at 1600 in the 2011 MBPs.
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It is reported as running at 1600 and people have seen tested speeds on certain actions increase, but I don't think beyond that it was ever proven that it is truly running at 1600 and just not reporting it. I think that it may be running as such, but can't prove it (also 1600 at CL10 is not going to be noticeable if at all over 1333 at CL9).
 
Thank you, all of u, I'll read those guides after work.

I just want to only use this thing for word processing, photoshop & Internet,to keep it as fast, for as long, as possible!

Thank you, all of u, I'll read those guides after work.

I just want to only use this thing for word processing, photoshop & Internet,to keep it as fast, for as long, as possible!

I've read that SSD's have a high failure rate or at some point will..... Die....

Is this true or was that on early pioneer models?
 
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