ok so the macbook air is due to be out in 2 days ( i called a bunch of apple store and thats what they have been saying) with that apple is going to release 10.5.2 because leopard it is going to need support for the MBA. it is possible that on that same day apple will announce multi-touch gestures on the MBP and macbook trackpads. one other question for you is if apple releases the new update to the MBP will the price for the refurbished one decrease?