I wanted to post this in another topic but it was locked. so here it goes. 1. i agree some MBPs have problems. 2. i agree MOST do not have problems. so basically in the post below it was argued that the apple reps are lying when they say they never heard of heat or whine. And if they did hear about it they say its normal. I dont think they are lying when they say they never heard about it (maybe some havnt, who knows) BUT when they say its normal i think thats weird. if a "faulty" MBP is normal then i guess one with NO problems is actually the one that has problems lol. so if lets say 90% of the people have perfect comps and 10% have the whine does that mean that apple should just say. well 90% is fine and we dont have to fix the rest? basically i say even though it is/could be a very small percentage that have problems. they still have problems that should be fixed. that goes for any company. not trying to start any wars in here. im not taking sides. just my oppinion.