MBP with 480gb OWC dead slow startup

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  1. guido.coza macrumors member

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    Hi all
    I have a MBP 13" retina mid2014 I did upgrade the standard 128gb ssd with the corresponding OWC 480gb ssd.
    However since than it takes up to 3min till the MB shows the "moving startup bar" (sometimes does not start at all)
    It might have come from the time I installed the ssd as I did put it first in the delivered enclosure (specifically was warned not to do so, but did not read instructions properly)
    Also on the system info it says there is NO INTERNAL harddrive.
    I presume I deleted by accident some files when I was prompted to format this drive prior to installation.
    Any idea what can/needs to be done to rectify the problem??
     

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  2. Audit13 macrumors 68030

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    Was there OS loaded from a time machine backup? Tried a clean install of Sierra with a full partition and erase?
     
  3. treekram, May 6, 2017
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    treekram macrumors 65816

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    Check the System Preferences -> Startup Disk to see if the OWC drive is selected. I just loaded Sierra on an external SSD on my 2012 MBP for testing purposes and in going back to the internal SSD (external SSD was no longer connected), it was slow (although I think it was less than 3 minutes). If the computer works fine after loading, that is a likely cause of the slowness.

    With PCI drives, it appears the determination of whether a drive is internal or not is not always reliable. But that doesn't necessarily cause problems in the operation of the drive. It looks like you need a software driver.
    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7452732?start=0&tstart=0

    EDIT: Realized after posting that the link is a driver for Bootcamp. If that's not what you're doing, it appears that that's the way it is.
    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7556000?start=0&tstart=0

    In the hackintosh world, there are patches that can be done to OSX to make it show as internal but I guess OWC doesn't want to do that (it would be a maintenance headache for sure).
     
  4. guido.coza thread starter macrumors member

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    [Check the System Preferences -> Startup Disk to see if the OWC drive is selected.]
    yes it is!
    [It looks like you need a software driver.] as you said thats for bootcamp and OWC specifically states no need ready to go!
    How ever, as I said I partially formatted that drive by accident when I put it into the included enclosure and disk utility suggested need formating

    Is there a way in safe mode where I can check what is on this drive, must have some sort of boot directory, etc get a screen shot from that and determine/ change what needs changing??
     
  5. guido.coza thread starter macrumors member

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    Also in Utility the mac HD is ejectable !!??
     

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  6. treekram macrumors 65816

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    I don't understand what you are trying to do.

    I presume you have the OWC Aura drive and the Envoy enclosure. It appears that you have a working system on the OWC Aura drive in the MBP. Or is that not the case and you're booting the MBP from the OWC Envoy?

    Are you concerned that something bad happened when you formatted the Aura drive in the Envoy enclosure and now want to fix it? If that is the case, if you did a fresh install of the OS on the Aura drive in the MBP and it's working, then that would have likely overwritten and fixed whatever issues might have been used by formatting the Aura drive in the Envoy enclosure.

    There is a partition created on all disks formatted for OSX called EFI. If the partition is bootable, it will contain the files necessary to boot. As I said, a fresh install of the OS will put the proper files there so you shouldn't need to access this partition.

    You can completely erase the disk and start all over again but the steps to do that require using the Terminal application, running the diskutil program to find the disk name and then running the proper command. This doesn't have to be done unless something is really wrong on your disk. I don't think that's the case but if you want to do that, you can search for "diskutil eraseDisk".

    If your main problem is the slow boot - I assume it's the slow boot from the Aura drive in the MBP. If you are getting a slow boot from the drive in the Envoy enclosure - it just may be the way it is - you should search the web or contact OWC to see if that's the case.

    Go back in the System Preferences -> Startup Disk and see if you have text below the image(s) of the disk and see if you have text that says "You have select OS X, " and make sure that corresponds to the right disk. If that's the case, you can either try re-installing the OS again or contact OWC and see if the boot time you have is normal. I did a quick look on the web and there was one post from a Mac Pro (the desktop computer) having a slow boot. I would have expected more results if there was a widespread issue.

    As I mentioned earlier, the Aura you have will appear as external and thus, the button to eject appears. It doesn't seem to affect how the driver performs otherwise.
     

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