I already wanted to replace my macbook pro (17 inch 2010, 128 gb ssd, 750 gb hdd *superdrive replacement*, 8 gb RAM) for a while, and was actually waiting for the haswell update. Now i see that the update is not that great, I probably want to replace my computer anyways, because I'm living in Hong Kong at the moment, but have to go back to my homecountry soon (Holland). The prices in HK differ so extremely much, that it would be stupid to not to buy a new one. If it wouldn't be for this, I would probably wait for Broadwell... Anyway, it is as it is and I was actually planning to buy the high end MBPr here for 20.000 HKD (which is around 2000 eu). But then I saw the refurb store here. I can buy the high end 2012 retina for 18.000 HKD! So we are comparing specs here: 2013 high end: 2.3 i7 haswell 16 gb ram 500 gb ssd Iris Pro + 750m 2012 high end 2.6 i7 16 gb ram 768 gb ssd HD4000 + 650m CHEAPER Now, I've heard that the machines are about the same speed. For cheaper, I get more storage. However, here's where I need your guys help. I mainly use the computer for Photoshop, After Effects and 3D software. I am always pushing my mac to the limits with heavy use of high end software and plugins. Which machine would suit me best? How is that Iris Pro for this usage actually? I've heard for some software it's better than the 650/750m? Hope you guys can help me out a bit. One more thing. If I buy that high end i'd probably go for the 1 TB SSD because 512 is a bit small. 768 is actually exactly right I feel. But then the price difference is 2400 eu vs 1800 eu, which is quite big! This is also a factor I'm considering. I'm mainly interested in the speed of the CPU, HD and Graphic cards when comparing. If this is about the same, I'm going for the refurbished model.