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My reply was neither rude nor crass, and the timing of the post is irrelevant. If you buy a product that you're not happy with or worried how it will hold up in the long run, returning it and buying something that satisfies you is a no-brainer. It's just common sense. I would offer the same advice in person as I would online.

Yes, it was both rude and crass and brought nothing useful to the thread at all.
You`ve made many useful posts on here, this not being one of them.
 
Some prefer to commiserate with the OP, saying "Poor baby! You're right! Bad ol' Apple is evil. They forced you to buy a bad, bad computer! Shame on them! Let's complain about it together and share our pain in multiple threads, because that's going to solve all your problems!"

I prefer to recommend something that would actually correct the problem, so the OP can move on and enjoy their computer for the next few years, instead of dealing with one they're unhappy with. The OP is welcome to accept or reject my advice, but there is nothing unkind, rude, crass or objectionable about the recommendation. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either misreading my intent or they're looking for an opportunity to criticize anyone who doesn't coddle the OP or who disagrees with their point of view. Get over it! :rolleyes:
 
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I prefer to recommend something that would actually correct the problem, so the OP can move on and enjoy their computer for the next few years, instead of dealing with one they're unhappy with. The OP is welcome to accept or reject my advice, but there is nothing unkind, rude, crass or objectionable about the recommendation. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either misreading my intent or they're looking for an opportunity to criticize anyone who doesn't coddle the OP or who disagrees with their point of view. Get over it! :rolleyes:

I personally view the mac community about solutions to problems, not lets whine... like some recent threads like 'how to get my parents to buy me a mac'... take control of yourself, if you don't think a particular model is a good fit for you feel free to move on to another one. Do your own research, and if indeed your particular machine is faulty take it to an apple store. Some stranger on the other side of the country can't fix it any better than your local Apple store.

GGJ has a stellar reputation of putting together quick guides and quick replies to other relevant threads to help curb crass reply's. Most would offer "google it" or "the search bar is your friend". At least there are some individuals here ready to point you in the right direction as opposed to dance with you in your complain to complain party dance.
 
So take it back and get what you want.

First, "some weeks" sounds like more than the fourteen days allowed by the return period. Second, this machine (MBPr) is thin and light compared to the regular MBP. Because of that the MBPr is bound to be more fragile than the regular MBP. Ones decision making should have taken 'fragility' into consideration before making the purchase. That being said, except for ruggedized (Panasonic ruggedize notebooks as an example) no computer is designed to be dropped or handled roughly. The creaking might be fixable by Apple. :D
 
First, "some weeks" sounds like more than the fourteen days allowed by the return period. Second, this machine (MBPr) is thin and light compared to the regular MBP. Because of that the MBPr is bound to be more fragile than the regular MBP. Ones decision making should have taken 'fragility' into consideration before making the purchase. That being said, except for ruggedized (Panasonic ruggedize notebooks as an example) no computer is designed to be dropped or handled roughly. The creaking might be fixable by Apple. :D

The first sensible solution, bravo! :)
 
Creaking is an issue for some rMBPs. It's not about fragility. The screws on yours might not be tighten up properly.

well, it does feel fragile. I think I could crush the bottom cover with a good squeeze with just my hands. The bottom panel flexes with the smallest amount of pressure. The MBP never felt like that.

No, I'm not returning it, I like the size too much. I'm just making an observation.
 
So take it back and get what you want.

What if nothing exists?

Let's all do without?

Then how does anyone do any work?

I'm going to side with concerned customers. Apple is becoming too focused on pretty precious than making anything even remotely rugged...

It's hard to guess why... apart from customers re-purchasing to keep the profit margin up... there might be other reasons...

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First, "some weeks" sounds like more than the fourteen days allowed by the return period. Second, this machine (MBPr) is thin and light compared to the regular MBP. Because of that the MBPr is bound to be more fragile than the regular MBP. Ones decision making should have taken 'fragility' into consideration before making the purchase. That being said, except for ruggedized (Panasonic ruggedize notebooks as an example) no computer is designed to be dropped or handled roughly. The creaking might be fixable by Apple. :D

One's decision making does have a very good point...

Maybe Apple will backtrack, since customers have - in one form or another - been saying the fragility is defeating the purpose...

At least other options (cMBP) exist... for now...
 
My reply was neither rude nor crass, and the timing of the post is irrelevant. If you buy a product that you're not happy with or worried how it will hold up in the long run, returning it and buying something that satisfies you is a no-brainer. It's just common sense. I would offer the same advice in person as I would online.

Dude, he was just stating his observations with the machine. wtf?

It's like you're taking it personally.
 
While the rMBP is thinner than the "traditional" MBP, I have not noticed any significant difference in build quality or "flimsiness". I handle the new notebook no differently than I handled my prior MBP, and I've had no issues with the hardware. Maybe the OP handles his notebook differently than I do, or maybe the bottom cover of the machine needs to be checked.
 
I have 2 15's sitting site by site 15" i7 2011 build and the new 15" rMBP
Display thickness looks the same
much lighter ind feels smaller in hand
I love the new fill with they would have room for Superdrive
 
I have large concerns about the screen and whether it will stand up to someone accidentally stepping on the clamshell back now that the front display cover glass is gone. I had a friend where that piece of glass saved her behind because it cracked that instead of the actual LCD.

I really don't expect mine to stand up to someone stepping on it. If you're keeping your MacBook on the floor I think you pretty much deserve what you get in terms of damage.
 
After having my MBPr for some weeks, I feel this thing is very fragile. If you squeeze the bottom of the case even a tiny bit, it creaks and bends. I feel like I have to be very careful how I pick this thing up or else I'm going to crush it. The aluminum seems to be more prone to scratches, too.

My old MBP felt like it was a solid brick of aluminum. Never got a scratch on it, either.

I'm really worried about how the MBPr will hold up.

So I'm gonna say it even though it won't be popular...

Apple lost its main design engineer not too long ago.
Steve Jobs was known for vehemently rejecting half the stuff his engineers came up with anyway.

The thinner MacBook Pro feels cheap to me. So does the iPhone5, try holding one and holding a 4S in the other hand. The new iOS is buggier than usual.

iMac is over 18 mo old now. The Mac Pro update was pathetic. Are they going to look and feel like cheap pieces of crap that everyone else makes when they finally get updated?

Apple is riding on its own coattails now and someone needs to kick them around some before it's too late. I think they are hosing up a lot but people are too caught up in the hype to notice.
 
Didn't feel like this was enough to post a new thread, but can someone with a rMBP tell me if the USB, thunderbolt logos, and the words on the bottom, etc. are screen printed on the aluminum or if they're laser etched? I'm still on an old non-unibody MBP and one of the bad things is that all of the lettering got rubbed off fairly quickly because it was just printed in ink on the aluminum, rather than burned in with a laser.

I feel like we could call this relevant to the quality of the machine.
 
Didn't feel like this was enough to post a new thread, but can someone with a rMBP tell me if the USB, thunderbolt logos, and the words on the bottom, etc. are screen printed on the aluminum or if they're laser etched? I'm still on an old non-unibody MBP and one of the bad things is that all of the lettering got rubbed off fairly quickly because it was just printed in ink on the aluminum, rather than burned in with a laser.

I feel like we could call this relevant to the quality of the machine.

I'd say it is screen printed because I cannot feel any ridges.
 
I'm biting the bullet and buying one of these this week. For me, it will be a desktop replacement. It won't see any action outside the house most likely.
 
It's pretty tough. I have dropped mine now 3 times. The worst being was when it slid out of its case in the overhead luggage compartment on a plane. That's a good 6ft drop. It was fine.
 
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