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My sentiments exactly

Originally posted by nebben123
**** the vegans, huh Steve?

McDonald's sucks!

man, I have to say I'm not sure I love this promotion too much. I mean, I'm glad Apple will be getting great exposure, but I can't help but feel Apple, and more importantly Stevie boy are selling out. The Pepsi thing was sort of OK, but McDonalds!? Gawwd, couldn't they have found someone better to join forces with? Fast food is nasty stuff, no matter who you get it from, but I'd have to say that McD's is unanimously the WORST fast food on the planet. Pure schlock!

And Steve is a vegan! How could he condone this? Well, I guess he IS a business man after all, but I thought he had a little more morals than this. Oh well. I guess I just don't like Apple being associated with food that's made from spare animal parts and chemicals that contributes to the obesity of America, not to mention deaths from coronaries. :rolleyes: :(
 
Re: My sentiments exactly

Originally posted by MM2270
man, I have to say I'm not sure I love this promotion too much. I mean, I'm glad Apple will be getting great exposure, but I can't help but feel Apple, and more importantly Stevie boy are selling out. The Pepsi thing was sort of OK, but McDonalds!? Gawwd, couldn't they have found someone better to join forces with? Fast food is nasty stuff, no matter who you get it from, but I'd have to say that McD's is unanimously the WORST fast food on the planet. Pure schlock!

And Steve is a vegan! How could he condone this? Well, I guess he IS a business man after all, but I thought he had a little more morals than this. Oh well. I guess I just don't like Apple being associated with food that's made from spare animal parts and chemicals that contributes to the obesity of America, not to mention deaths from coronaries. :rolleyes: :(

What deal are you talking about exactly? All they say is that they are giving away 1 billion songs. I imagine the devil´s in the detail. Maybe you will be able to buy bottled water and salad in exchange for a tune. You never know, you might not even be entitled to the offer if it´s a promo in Europe only.
 
Re: My sentiments exactly

Originally posted by MM2270
Gawwd, couldn't they have found someone better to join forces with? Fast food is nasty stuff, no matter who you get it from, but I'd have to say that McD's is unanimously the WORST fast food on the planet. Pure schlock!


And there, people, you have it.
 
Originally posted by jettredmont
Isn't Burger King owned by Pepsico? Along with KFC and Taco Bell and Pizza Hut and a handful of others?

No. Pizza hut/Taco Bell/KFC were owned by Pepsi, but were spun off and are called Tricon, I believe. That fact was used when Coke got BK to switch from Pepsi several years ago, by asking "why do you want to sell pepsi and thus support your competion?"

BK was owned by Pillsbury, at least until recently. I think they (Pillsbury) wanted to dump them, but I don't know how that turned out. BK is in perpetually bad shape.

Originally posted by MM2270
Gawwd, couldn't they have found someone better to join forces with? Fast food is nasty stuff, no matter who you get it from, but I'd have to say that McD's is unanimously the WORST fast food on the planet. Pure schlock!

This snobbery is almost worse than the wal-mart thread. I regularly eat at McDonalds beacuse it is convenient and cheap. It ain't that bad, and I downright enjoy the chicken sandwich. Are there better choices? Sure - Wendy's and Chick-fil-a are better, but not located around me. Would I prefer to sit down and enjoy a nice Indian, Chinese, Mexican meal everyday - of course. I just don't have the time to do so at lunch.

This whole business about McDonalds being evil or something is just crap. Just beacuse something is popular with "the masses" doesn't make it evil. As mac users, I guess many of us a suspicious of anything that is the "market leader," but they usually get there somehow - and I don't think the reason is that they are "evil."

You tell me that McDonalds has a bad human rights record. When did McDonald's become a nation-state? They offer entry level jobs to kids, supplemental jobs to the elderly and a break for newly arrived immigrants. These people are otherwise unemployable. Whatever benfits the recieve from McDonalds are better than none. This isn't a command economy (at least not yet), and people still have the right to choose their place of employment. The deal they got from McDonald's was obviously better than whatever they had going before. And if McDonalds were somehow compelled to offer a panoply of benefits, what would that do to the price of the food? All these newly rich workers would soon be unemployed again when McDonald's business plumets from being priced out of the market.

I could go on, but I've got to start billing some hours. Maybe I'll add to my rant later on. Don't even get me started on the environment and "globalisation." This is why I stay out of the political discussion thread. All I came here to do was talk about macs!
 
Originally posted by Foxer
No. Pizza hut/Taco Bell/KFC were owned by Pepsi, but were spun off and are called Tricon, I believe. That fact was used when Coke got BK to switch from Pepsi several years ago, by asking "why do you want to sell pepsi and thus support your competion?"

BK was owned by Pillsbury, at least until recently. I think they (Pillsbury) wanted to dump them, but I don't know how that turned out. BK is in perpetually bad shape.


Man, I'm out of touch with the Fast Food Corporate Soap Opera!

I think someone needs to start an "As the Burger Turns" website ...
 
Originally posted by Lancetx
There will be companies lined up around the block to license AAC/Fairplay for their players too if this all goes through.
I think you missed the previous article about how Steve doesn't think they should let other MP3 players besides iPod work with iTMS. I tend to agree with him.

The only problem they could run into is if they get a 90+% monopoly on Music sales + iPod sales they could be open to anti-competitive legal issues a'la Microsoft.
 
Originally posted by Tulse
Hah! I hadn't thought of that, but you're right -- this deal rather clashes with Steve's personal dietary beliefs. Maybe he only agreed because McD's now has a veggie burger.
Steve would not be as successful as he is today if he let his personal beliefs get in the way of common business sense. You don't nix a $1 billion dollar deal just because you believe in animal rights... Well, at least, you don't nix a $1 billion dollar deal and expect to not get axed by the board of directors shortly.
 
Originally posted by Foxer
No. Pizza hut/Taco Bell/KFC were owned by Pepsi, but were spun off and are called Tricon, I believe. That fact was used when Coke got BK to switch from Pepsi several years ago, by asking "why do you want to sell pepsi and thus support your competion?"

I did a little research...

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=YUM
 
Originally posted by illumin8
I think you missed the previous article about how Steve doesn't think they should let other MP3 players besides iPod work with iTMS. I tend to agree with him.

The only problem they could run into is if they get a 90+% monopoly on Music sales + iPod sales they could be open to anti-competitive legal issues a'la Microsoft.

Naaa as long as prices remain fair and Apple doesn't act like an overbearing PITA no one will cry anti-competitive. (MS routinely bites the hand that feeds it. Hence the monopoly outcries a few years back.)
However I've always considered Apple to be the parallel dimension version of MS if they had gotten the shaft in the computer industry. (flip sides of the same quarter.) If Apple had a monopoly on anything they would probably be just as overbearing as MS. Jobs as it stand is, IMHO, an arrogant little prick. I can’t imagine him at the helm of a monopoly. That’s just scary. :eek:
 
Originally posted by Foxer
This whole business about McDonalds being evil or something is just crap. Just beacuse something is popular with "the masses" doesn't make it evil. As mac users, I guess many of us a suspicious of anything that is the "market leader," but they usually get there somehow - and I don't think the reason is that they are "evil."

Do yourself a favor and read Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser, ISBN: 0060938455. You'll change that tune pretty fast. It's more about quality standards and how mass-production to meet fast-food level demands is changing American society than it is about any company being "evil" but the devil can be clearly seen in the details. Want to know why fast food tastes so good? It's because it's built to taste so good: they actually spray on "flavor" chemicals designed to appeal to our appetites. Maybe they should just start selling the flavor spray to us.
 
Does apple really want to be associated with a corporation that has no respect for healthy eating habits, destroys local businesses, abuses illegal and teenage workers, buys slaughtered cattle from mega cattle corporation witch screw farmers and exploit illegal mexican workers, and is perhaps the sole reason for the obesity epidemic in America?

Why is apple targeting a consumer base that doesn't care about there food or where it comes from?

-cody

Source: Fast Food Nation, Time Magazine, Adbusters Magazine, and Personal Observations.
 
Originally posted by panphage
Want to know why fast food tastes so good? It's because it's built to taste so good: they actually spray on "flavor" chemicals designed to appeal to our appetites.
Damn straight. I want my fast food to taste bad! With no flavor whatsoever!

I mean, sheesh. Its not holistic natural goodness, but it never pretended to be. If they can spritz on some "flavor" chemicals that, presumably, not only meet all FDA guidelines for safety but don't (like MSG) cause allergic recactions among their customers, and do so for less money than the alternatives to get the same results, why shouldn't they? After all, that keeps the prices down for their customers, and/or their financials good for their shareholders (including pretty much anyone with an index fund).

-Richard
 
Re: Re: Hackers?

Originally posted by Dippo
Well, I don't think that anyone has hacked the current BestBuy bucks for the Monopoly game, and they are a dollar each.

So, I don't think any would be able to hack before the promotion ended.

It's a 16 digit hexidecimal code.
That's 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 different combinations.

EDIT: So with random guessing you would have a 1 in 18,446,744,073 chance of guessing a correct code.

There we have it, we now know what the new Virginia U G5 cluster was built for.
 
You all seem to be ignoring this.

As for what companies own what, here in NZ at least, KFC, Pizza Hut, and Starbucks are all owned by a company called Resturant Brands. I think BK and McD's are independent.
 
Originally posted by rjstanford
Damn straight. I want my fast food to taste bad! With no flavor whatsoever!

I mean, sheesh. Its not holistic natural goodness, but it never pretended to be. If they can spritz on some "flavor" chemicals that, presumably, not only meet all FDA guidelines for safety but don't (like MSG) cause allergic recactions among their customers, and do so for less money than the alternatives to get the same results, why shouldn't they? After all, that keeps the prices down for their customers, and/or their financials good for their shareholders (including pretty much anyone with an index fund).

-Richard

Well, I think the point is that actual real food has it's own flavor, you don't need to spray it on. When I buy ground chuck from the grocer, I don't have to spray flavor on it to make it appeal to me. I can also fry up potatoes that taste quite good. When food has been processed to the point that it no longer contains flavor, it seems likely to be lacking in nutrients as well.
 
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