So I did it, bought the 3G 8GB tonight. With my FAN my plan is $52 a month with the 450plan. Not bad. I also got the activation fee waived (FAN) and a $25 credit. I was happy. Ever since I inquired about my ETF with Verizon and disclosing I am going to ATT for the iPhone Verizon has called me MANY MANY times on my old cell trying to convince me to stay. Being a 12yr old customer they said they were willing to sell me the DARE for $20 or something. I guess it was my new every 2 + a $50 rebate + $30 credit. Sorry NO DARE FOR ME. Finally after I got my iPhone and ported my Verizon # I got a call about 3hrs after leaving the ATT store from Verizon. explained that if i was not happy with ATT after 30 days to call them back and they will re-activate me at NO CHARGE. Kept pushing the DARE cell and that I would be able to purchase it for $20. I told them thanks and will keep them in mind AND THEN the girl started saying what if we are able to give you the DARE for FREE? Would I be willing to go back to ATT and return the iPhone? I declined and she would not stop! "Let's sweeten the pot sir" HUH how about a discount on the data plan? i just told her no thanks and that i will be in touch if the iPhone / ATT do not work out in the next 30 days. WOW is Verizon hurting or something? Sorry but maybe verizon should have picked up the iPhone to begin with. yeah i've been with them and loyal for 12yrs but i had to have the iPhone and ATT service is now up to par in 2008. sorry Verizon, I highly doubt I will come back.