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We just upgraded to 'ac', and it's FAST! Like really fast. *ZIP*, compared to 'n'. I can't imagine faster still.

Bring it on! I'm sure something will come that can swamp it! (Something always does, doesn't it)
 
Fantastic for untethered VR.

For almost anything else? Ridiculous overkill. Might find some interesting niche cases where the ability to dump dozens of gigabytes onto devices one at a time remotely in just a few seconds each would be handy. Can’t think of anything specific though.

I would hope WIFI 7 could deliver power up to 100W per device.

If not, your untethered VR use case would require a power cable hanging behind your head, adding a data cable inside that power cable is not that much inconvenience to the user.
 
To me, the bottleneck of todays global internet architecture is the backbone and the submarine fiber infrastructure. Those things are maxed out before your home connections unless the content you are trying to reach is cached locally at an ISP datacenter or edge node close to you.
 
Wi-Fi 7 is said to deliver 2.4x faster speeds than Wi-Fi 6

The Wi-FI Alliance says Wi-Fi 7 could provide speeds of "at least 30" gigabits per second (Gbps) and should exceed that to reach 40Gbps, which is the same speed as Thunderbolt 3.

As noted by ArsTechnica, Wi-Fi 6 supports speeds up to 9.6Gbps

9.6x2.4 = 23 < 30 not >

Am I making a silly mistake here or one of these numbers must be wrong?
 
This just in: Misleading marketing keeps on being misleading.

These numbers are the absolute best-case scenario when you aggregate performance using 6x6 320MHz. Clients will mostly stay 1x1 and 2x2 as a result of power usage and limited space for antennas.
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Comparisons with Thunderbolt 3 is also downright false and stupid as Thunderbolt is full-duplex, WiFi is half-duplex. ....

That's why you don't really need anything more than 1Gbps ethernet for 802.11ax/WiFi6 access points even if 4x4 802.11ax/WiFi6 in theory can go beyond 1Gbps. All these people convince themselves they need 2.5Gbps ports on their WiFi6 routers and access points are just fooling themselves.

Most of that is one target. However, a router with a 2.5Gbps ports to the modem or to the modem and the internal wired LAN could be useful down the road. If have 1Gbps of aggregated WiFi traffic and 1Gbps of aggregated wired Ethernet traffic both going through the router to the Internet having 2Gbps of "backhaul" would be useful.

But yeah, a 100% WiFi6 set up. Probably not going to see much. However, with several 1Gbps wired ethernet traffic aggregated up or some 2.5 NAS-to-Client traffic going on then the 2.5Gps ports on the router make more sense.

Faster wireless may be the thing to finally get the wired Ethernet solutions to finally move on from 1Gbps as being the "volume units" solution. 2.5GbE should be standard on a decent desktop computer these days. Same thing with mid-range NAS and affordable switches. Pretty shure the latest Intel PCH chipeset for Gen 12 (Alder Lake) has 2.5 support built in.

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If bought the chipset it is 80+% already there anyway ( already mostly paid for it).


Macs ... yeah it is a problem. Most of the line up has no Ethernet jack and even entry iMacs lack a port. But the bulk of the desktop market over next 2 years 2.5GbE should be standard. Gen 12's mobile PCH don't have it but that should trickle down by the 800 series rolls around.



Their numbers for WiFi6 are just as stupid. You won't see anywhere close to 9.6Gbps using WiFi6 in any scenario.

Are closer to the point where a bigger number of folks will get 1Gbps. The numbers are 'big' so the price tag can be 'big'. Wifi 6E mesh routers are expensive. Wifi 7 is pretty much an excuse to at a minimum keep the numbers high (or worse get even more router price creep inflation. )
 
And 90% of people around the world don’t even have 10Mbps down broadband. So far the best case scenario I could see is wifi 7 paving ways for apple to wirelessly connect latest iPhone iPad with Mac, or Apple Watch with iPhone. That’s about it.

An "all Apple ecosystem" solution would more likely be Apple XR/VR/HR devices to some other device ( Mac , iPad Pro ) . A way to offload some of the compute out of the headset without using a physical wire tether. ( if the transmit/receive power increase trade-offs the decreased compute power consumption. )
 
Fantastic for untethered VR.

For almost anything else? Ridiculous overkill. Might find some interesting niche cases where the ability to dump dozens of gigabytes onto devices one at a time remotely in just a few seconds each would be handy. Can’t think of anything specific though.
For untethered VR - 802.11ay. It’s amazing that VR over regular WiFi works at all, but having over an order of magnitude more bandwidth would really, really help.
 
Be sure to use expensive Monster cables for your wireless connection to guarantee no drop outs!
You'll definitely need a Monster Cable AC power cord so your WiFi 7 router can reach its fullest potential.

Translation of the article from marketingspeak into English: "we really want people to line up to buy our chips using the latest buzzwords, even though the chips with the current buzzwords are plenty fast enough for nearly every real world scenario".

Wireless 8k streaming? How hot of a market do they think that is? How many people already have 8k TVs and have a desperate need to use a $500 WiFi7 access point to connect it, instead of a $15 ethernet cable?
 
So, what new discovery they found to make it faster? Why we couldn't have this when Wifi5 was released? 2023 is not that far, people hardly bought Wifi6, in fact , i heard Wifi6 is not fully rolled out.

So, high speed, but how about energy consumption? Matching wire connection? Not to mention eavesdropping easier than wire. My iPhone XS Max can’t sustain long time continuous 4G network usage without massively thermal throttling. How about this one?

And 90% of people around the world don’t even have 10Mbps down broadband. So far the best case scenario I could see is wifi 7 paving ways for apple to wirelessly connect latest iPhone iPad with Mac, or Apple Watch with iPhone. That’s about it.

I think your 4G is having a problem with heat issues because its trying to find a signal, my understanding is that if the signal is weak it works harder to gain it causing heat issues.

This just in: Misleading marketing keeps on being misleading.

These numbers are the absolute best-case scenario when you aggregate performance using 6x6 320MHz. Clients will mostly stay 1x1 and 2x2 as a result of power usage and limited space for antennas.

Even with a client using 6x6 you wouldn't be anywhere close to these numbers as you are filling the entire spectrum so unless you live in a very remote area with barely any interference using up the entire spectrum all at once for a single device is not going to happen.

Comparisons with Thunderbolt 3 is also downright false and stupid as Thunderbolt is full-duplex, WiFi is half-duplex. Meaning that Thunderbolt can push data upstream and downstream at the same time, WiFi can't so when you have upstream and downstream on WiFi the throughput is instantly cut in half.

That's why you don't really need anything more than 1Gbps ethernet for 802.11ax/WiFi6 access points even if 4x4 802.11ax/WiFi6 in theory can go beyond 1Gbps. All these people convince themselves they need 2.5Gbps ports on their WiFi6 routers and access points are just fooling themselves.

Their numbers for WiFi6 are just as stupid. You won't see anywhere close to 9.6Gbps using WiFi6 in any scenario.

So realistically speaking, currently Wifi5 can reach 700Mbpps or so in perfect conditions, with Wifi7 what shall we expect?
 
I think your 4G is having a problem with heat issues because its trying to find a signal, my understanding is that if the signal is weak it works harder to gain it causing heat issues.
Except it’s in perfect strength and can sustain high speed download for a while without too much issue aside from overheating.
 
At some point, we might actually need tinfoil-hats.

In large apartment-blocks in Europe, it's already the norm to see dozens of WLANs from all the apartments left, right, below and on top of you, sometimes even from the next building.
 
Any information on range or ability to pass through concrete walls ?
Generally as frequency goes up, bandwidth goes up whole distance and permeance go down. This is why 5g has sub 1ghz and sub 6 ghz designations - 6ghz+ is basically line of sight.
 
Generally as frequency goes up, bandwidth goes up whole distance and permeance go down. This is why 5g has sub 1ghz and sub 6 ghz designations - 6ghz+ is basically line of sight.
That is quite an exaggeration.
Even 60GHz (802.11ad/ay) works adequately ”in-room”. (Of course, if you hide it behind/within objects that block the signal you’re asking for trouble.)

Horses for courses. I don’t know what will emerge as the consumer standard after WiFi7. The tradeoffs are complex.
 
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