You guys are smart. My grade avergae for this quarter was a 62.5, which, needless to say, is pretty crappy.
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This gets you all nowhere, honestly.
Everyone crying about their grades and comparing them ultimately ends up with a bunch of kids running around with complexes about their grades. High school grades are not the end of the world (no matter how much people tell you that they are), and stressing over them will only ever make you do worse.
SO, I'd suggest, that for the good of the group everyone should stop sharing their averages and their grades.
For a frame of reference I'm 18 and a senior in high school, so I know where you all are coming from.
(I could also go off about my extra-curriculars, AP Classes, SAT scores and college applications, but really I don't think anyone would really care.) For those who are feeling bad about their grades: most likely, the people bragging about all of their averages are, on the whole, having a confidence issue with whether or not they stack up...being able to put your scores aside and understand that you've actually learned something fascinating and put it to a creative use is a much greater accomplishment than getting an A on a test.
For the record, if anyone who doesn't like typical math (Trig/Calc), Statistics is fascinating. Best course I've ever taken.
Everyone crying about their grades and comparing them ultimately ends up with a bunch of kids running around with complexes about their grades. High school grades are not the end of the world (no matter how much people tell you that they are), and stressing over them will only ever make you do worse.
SO, I'd suggest, that for the good of the group everyone should stop sharing their averages and their grades.
For a frame of reference I'm 18 and a senior in high school, so I know where you all are coming from.
(I could also go off about my extra-curriculars, AP Classes, SAT scores and college applications, but really I don't think anyone would really care.) For those who are feeling bad about their grades: most likely, the people bragging about all of their averages are, on the whole, having a confidence issue with whether or not they stack up...being able to put your scores aside and understand that you've actually learned something fascinating and put it to a creative use is a much greater accomplishment than getting an A on a test.
For the record, if anyone who doesn't like typical math (Trig/Calc), Statistics is fascinating. Best course I've ever taken.
15, in Australia. Hobbies: computers (macs of course), debating whether macs are better than PC's with my friend, im the only mac user in my class so its all onto me! but i still win!!!, Basketball, sociallising. Is anyone religious here? i am, im a Christadelphian. erm as far as shool goes, we dont have honor classes here just the normal ones!
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InfiniteLoop1 said:
The proper spelling is Christadelphians, no I am not one. Just wanted to let you know, and also comment on OutThere's post, the sad thing is that most kids are forced to make A's by their parents and they end up getting really stressed out.
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Hey, my name is Eric too, but I spell it differently.
Anyway, I'm 15, and will be 16 in march. I'm a Sophomore in High School in Northern CA.
I'm taking a CISCO class in my school, got the highest grade in my class last semester! But the sad part is my Cisco teacher doesn't consider Apple's real computers!
And to make it worse, I'm the only Mac user in my class, so I have to defend it single handedly.My Computers are in my sig. (the windows was given to me, had to pay for the Apple myself)
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You need to resist the tempation of MacRumors, and spend more time studying!
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EricNau said:Hey, my name is Eric too, but I spell it differently.
Anyway, I'm 15, and will be 16 in march. I'm a Sophomore in High School in Northern CA.
I'm taking a CISCO class in my school, got the highest grade in my class last semester! But the sad part is my Cisco teacher doesn't consider Apple's real computers!
My Computers are in my sig. (the windows was given to me, had to pay for the Apple myself)
Hello Eric with a "c".
I'm taking electronics 1 and if I take electronics 2 I can be certified for microsoft networking or something like that.
My teacher is really cool, really smart, and really odd. He's a good teacher although his hatred of macs can be annoying. He looks at me and then makes a comment about them. I can usually can prove him wrong about what he says though
. I bet by the end of the school year I can get him to buy a mac. That teacher I speak of above was talking about how the XBOX 360s were crashing. I raised my hand and said "thats what you get when you buy a product from microsoft
". There are no other Mac users in my grade that I know of. So I'm alone to but I've gotten people to want to switch. Some people are ignorant and technologically stupid and say "macs suck because they do".
My parents bought my Dell when I was in 6th grade. It was a really nice and fast computer in its day, P4 2.53Ghz, fastest was 2.8GHz but that cost a lot more. I paid for 1/3 of my powerbook back in february.
Right now my PB has to be fixed so I'm using my dell.
CompUser said:Hello Eric with a "c".
My teacher is really cool, really smart, and really odd. He's a good teacher although his hatred of macs can be annoying. He looks at me and then makes a comment about them. I can usually can prove him wrong about what he says though
That teacher I speak of above was talking about how the XBOX 360s were crashing. I raised my hand and said "thats what you get when you buy a product from microsoft
There are no other Mac users in my grade that I know of. So I'm alone to but I've gotten people to want to switch. Some people are ignorant and technologically stupid and say "macs suck because they do".
Right now my PB has to be fixed so I'm using my dell.
The computer teacher at the school is in the Mac lab and it is fun to be able to talk to him about macs and stuch. He is really good at doing graphics and such, though even he admits that I am a much bigger nerd than he is. I don't think I have a forte yet with computers, and he knows much more about Mac than I do, but as for Linux, I know a lot more there than he does. We can share knowledge and he is a neat guy. I would rather by the end of the school year have him buying me a mac, as he recently purchased a 17inch Powerbook G4. And I can't afford one.
Today our Yearbook rep came and she was talking about how the programs speed depends on the speed of the computer, we have a lot of no tech people on the yearbook staff. Anyhow, kind of how you mentioned buying products from microsoft, I made a remark that the reason our Dells were being slow is that they were not PowerMac G5's. So we got into an interesting discussion after class about Macs with yearbook staffs, I thought they would be more common. She says differently. I suspect that is because most schools are switching to cheaper PC systems, namely Dell systems. I can't get through peoples heads that cheaper isn't better. We have had to have so maintance in our Dell lab.
So I feel sorry for you having to sit at a Dell. I don't mind sitting at my Linux box here, and infact I like it a lot. Though I would much rather be sitting at a Powerbook G4, too bad I can't convince my ex-yearbook advisor who bought her a Powerbook G4 last march, that she never uses Portable, do upgrade to a PowerMac G5 and give me the Powerbook, HA!
The downside of being a young nerd, you end up with not always the best equipment. Being a ham operate aswell I have spend a majority of my money with that hobby. So at this point I have computers, radios, my ipod and digital camera. But for all the money I spent I could have gotten a 15 inch Powerbook G4.. umm
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maestro55 said:
When I was in middle school I knew 3 Mac obsessed teachers. Now I only have 1 teacher that I really know that has a mac.
The band teacher has them, but I've never really talked to him. I going to start working in the projection booth of our auditorium where there is a PC and a G3 PowerMac. I'll have to find a way to get better computers in there lol.
CompUser said:
Our school used to be 100% mac, and it is now only about 20% mac, with all the teacher machines on all campuses now PCs and just a few Mac labs left. It is very very sad, but I won't be there after this year, so I don't have too much to complain about. It is just that things have gotten soooo much worse when they switched to PCs, and the head tech guy is a Mac guy, BUT his boss (the superintendent who has now resigned, for several reasons) was a PC guy, the old superintendent was a Mac guy.. The replacement, umm we will see.. but we don't have money to switch back to Macs anytime soon.
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maestro55 said:
My school used to be 100% mac. The High School used to have iMacs for all the teachers and PowerMac G4s for the computer labs. But they swtiched.
The Middle school up until this year was Mac. I found out over thanksgiving that my dads, brothers, wifes, sisters, stepdaughters, husbands put in the computers at the middle school. (no lie about that relationship)
He said that "Your school has the most computers in a school system I have even seen"
Pretty much the main reason we switched to PCs is because of money too. That and the tech guy a.ka. my soccer coach is a PC person.
Hey atleast you guys in USA experienced macs in school, we have the ghettoest computer labs ever. 1 Lab(which constantly has class so its only free 40% of the time)has 25 1.7ghz P4 with 256MB Ram(32 shared for vram) and 40GB HDs in shuttle cases, the other lab which is for student use only had 20 toshiba laptops running 1.4 GHZ celerons with 512MB ram(32 shared for vram) with 40GB HDs this is for 300 students! Some of the class rooms such as math and science and art rooms have old P3 1ghz with 128 or 256 MB RAM and the art rom has the only PCs with video cards GeForce 3s. The school has a 20MB connection but we arent allowed to download anything and the only software we have is WIN XP HOME, Internet explorer, frontpage, the M$ Office sweet, corel draw and adobe photoshop and acrobat. NO msn allowed nor downloading of any thing which is reasonable. NOOOO one in my school accept me uses a mac. OH and this is a private school costing us $12,000 euro a year
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Patmian212 said:Hey atleast you guys in USA experienced macs in school, we have the ghettoest computer labs ever. 1 Lab(which constantly has class so its only free 40% of the time)has 25 1.7ghz P4 with 256MB Ram(32 shared for vram) and 40GB HDs in shuttle cases, the other lab which is for student use only had 20 toshiba laptops running 1.4 GHZ celerons with 512MB ram(32 shared for vram) with 40GB HDs this is for 300 students! Some of the class rooms such as math and science and art rooms have old P3 1ghz with 128 or 256 MB RAM and the art rom has the only PCs with video cards GeForce 3s. The school has a 20MB connection but we arent allowed to download anything and the only software we have is WIN XP HOME, Internet explorer, frontpage, the M$ Office sweet, corel draw and adobe photoshop and acrobat. NO msn allowed nor downloading of any thing which is reasonable. NOOOO one in my school accept me uses a mac. OH and this is a private school costing us $12,000 euro a year
Wow that sucks.
We have 5 labs filled with P4 2.66 or 2.88 proccessors with 17" CRTs. They used to have 40 iBook but most of them got trashed so they are sitting in a pile in a closet. All computers have MS XP Pro, MS office, photoshop, pagemaker, adobe premier, CAD programs, bridge making programs, accounting things, and lots of other stuff.
We can't use or download anything that is a .exe file.
My school has 1200 kids, yet has a computer lab with about 25 old pentiums, and maybe about half of them actually work. It's not really a big deal for me though since I hardly ever use a computer at school.
CompUser said:Hello Eric with a "c".
I'm taking electronics 1 and if I take electronics 2 I can be certified for microsoft networking or something like that.
My teacher is really cool, really smart, and really odd. He's a good teacher although his hatred of macs can be annoying. He looks at me and then makes a comment about them. I can usually can prove him wrong about what he says though
That teacher I speak of above was talking about how the XBOX 360s were crashing. I raised my hand and said "thats what you get when you buy a product from microsoft
There are no other Mac users in my grade that I know of. So I'm alone to but I've gotten people to want to switch. Some people are ignorant and technologically stupid and say "macs suck because they do".
My parents bought my Dell when I was in 6th grade. It was a really nice and fast computer in its day, P4 2.53Ghz, fastest was 2.8GHz but that cost a lot more. I paid for 1/3 of my powerbook back in february.
Right now my PB has to be fixed so I'm using my dell.
Hello Erik with a "k."
Your teacher sounds so much nicer/smarter/better than mine. I'm hoping as soon as we get out of web design and more into networking, he'll be a little happier and more "teachful."
He atleast told me it was "ok" that I liked Apple (I still wanted to wack him upside the head though)!
Glad to hear there is someone else out there like me that always will rub into the teachers face when microsoft fails (which is a full time job).
We had to write a paper on the thing we thought advanced technology the most, so I wrote it on Apple Computer, inc. I said things like "Without Apple, we would still be typing out DOS commad lines, and no GUI would exist" and "Apple was the first to offer 3.5" Floppy drives standard, and they were the first to get rid of them and offer CD ROM as standard instead." Also mentioned firewire, etc. I never got the paper back
I've thought about it a lot, and it seems all of the really good teachers I've had have used Macs. One of my web deisgn teachers was part of the reason I switched, and so I could save up the money, I worked in his yard, it was a lot of hard work, but it was well worht it.
I was 16 for a whole year....then I turned 17...then 18......I skipped 19 and 20 and went straight to 21......
My GPA..uh...sometimes its the same as my BAC (Blood Alcohol Content).
My GPA..uh...sometimes its the same as my BAC (Blood Alcohol Content).
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EricNau said:Hello Erik with a "k."
Your teacher sounds so much nicer/smarter/better than mine. I'm hoping as soon as we get out of web design and more into networking, he'll be a little happier and more "teachful."
He atleast told me it was "ok" that I liked Apple (I still wanted to wack him upside the head though)!
Glad to hear there is someone else out there like me that always will rub into the teachers face when microsoft fails (which is a full time job).
We had to write a paper on the thing we thought advanced technology the most, so I wrote it on Apple Computer, inc. I said things like "Without Apple, we would still be typing out DOS commad lines, and no GUI would exist" and "Apple was the first to offer 3.5" Floppy drives standard, and they were the first to get rid of them and offer CD ROM as standard instead." Also mentioned firewire, etc. I never got the paper back
I've thought about it a lot, and it seems all of the really good teachers I've had have used Macs. One of my web deisgn teachers was part of the reason I switched, and so I could save up the money, I worked in his yard, it was a lot of hard work, but it was well worht it.
When my Elec. teacher says something bad about macs, I'll come in with a packet of printed out proof that macs are better lol (i.e. FW vs. USB2)
My world civ teacher was telling us about this contest we could enter and we you could write an essay and win a XPS m170 laptop. She asked me if that was good and I said "Well it is a $3,000 laptop, but to bad its a dell".
Didn't apple have the first affordable mouse too?
there aren't that many erics with "K"s. I have seen erik/eric spelled Eriq.
CompUser said:
Actually, Apple was the first to use a mouse, and the first to have a trackpad on their laptops.
Go here, it's amazing...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Macintosh (they used to have an entire list of things Apple had done first, I don't know what happend to it, but it still mentions a lot of stuff).
Speaking of track pads. I'm still relatively new to the laptop thing, and I've been using mine so much my fingerprints are wearing off. I don't mind as I'm a cat burglar on the side, but my finger tips are really sensitive now. Has anyone else ever done this? Or should I just chalk it up as another one of the many unique ways I injure myself?
latergator116 said:
That has got to suck! Our school K-12 has about 900 students we have 7 computer labs (three in elementary, with hopes to get the younger kids more interactive by the time they are in the other buildings. This way when more money comes and we have more computers, they will know how to use them.. 1 in the intermediate building and one in the junior high, two in the high school. All labs except for one are Mac labs. However the teachers all have PCs now, and so are the office computers.) We have two mobile labs one in the high school, ibooks, and one in the junior high, Toshibas.
We are the most interactive out of 2A schools in our area. Our school invests a ton of money in computers, and sadly we just can't afford the Apple systems anymore. Hoping that we find a budget for more Apple systems. We are supposed to get one more computer lab on campus, and I am hoping it is a mac lab.
Here's that article from wikipedia that I can't find anymore...
Wikipedia at some point in time said: