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Memory in New $1099 iMac is Soldered and Not Upgradable
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This is the kind of game that shows people just how GREEN Apple are.
All their talk about being environmental and using good materials etc.
They COULD sell a computer which would last longer and not need changing, but no they sell this knowing that, people will have to buy another.
Makes them more money.
I have to hand it to them, they are finding every single way to generate as much money at the expense of everything else.
How long people will be foolish enough to go along with this, time will tell.
That's the problem. They do this, people who know no better lap it up and they think, yay, people love what we are doing, lets go further with this idea.
So as a customer you get what you deserve really.
All their talk about being environmental and using good materials etc.
They COULD sell a computer which would last longer and not need changing, but no they sell this knowing that, people will have to buy another.
Makes them more money.
I have to hand it to them, they are finding every single way to generate as much money at the expense of everything else.
How long people will be foolish enough to go along with this, time will tell.
That's the problem. They do this, people who know no better lap it up and they think, yay, people love what we are doing, lets go further with this idea.
So as a customer you get what you deserve really.
Are you serious? It's so you are forced to pay Apple prices on more RAM at time of purchase. You pay Apple $200 for RAM you can buy yourself for $50. There is no other reason besides dollars and cents in Apple's pockets.
Just curious, but what flavor is the Kool-Aid you're drinking? There is absolutely NOTHING good about this 'computer'. Every decision behind this abomination is indefensible.
I was hoping for a real logical answer. Not an obvious one like money. That's 100% clear to me.
If it were $799 or so, I think it'd be a great entry level (for Apple) machine. But for $200 less than the regular 21"? No way. Too high.
Well, I wouldn't go that far.
It would be sensible if it was dramatically cheaper or something like that, but as is, the advantages aren't really that great, and they might as well have kept it modular.
It would be sensible if it was dramatically cheaper or something like that, but as is, the advantages aren't really that great, and they might as well have kept it modular.
He's back! I didn't know if you were at the South Pole or a North Korean prison camp.
Utterly depends what you need it for doesn't it you know that this is still faster than the most powerful cray super computer in about 1996.
People that will buy this want a solution. To surf the web, type some letters and edit photos. They don't give a crap about upgrading the ram. And my experience is a mac has a way longer shelf life than and PC I have owed. Mainly due to windows and drivers constantly screwing up.
My 3 year old mac air works and looks like new. My 5 year old Mac Pro is still pretty good.., although depressing slower than the current mini!
This machine is
The new 1.4 desktop achieved a score of 2820 in the single-core test and 5435 in the multi-core test.
That's about the same as the previous 21.5-inch iMac's score of single-core score of 2882 but significantly worse than its multi-core score of 9204.
But given that not many non pro apps take advantage of the multi threading it really doesn't matter.
My 2008 Mac Pro gets 1535 single core and 11100 multi... But cost me near $7000
I do think they should have priced it super low though. Say 899.
It's funny that people find these issues of concern, when as soon as you've bought it, the clock is ticking to the day Apple decides it can't be bothered to make the newest OS compatible with your hardware.
These integrated systems are immensely annoying in that the internals become deprecated by the OS, before the screen component is no longer of use. I'm sure Apple could make the Mac Mini tiny and update the Cinema Displays (with a non-absurd price) but that would prioritise the interests of the user, and the environment, over their bottom-line.
These integrated systems are immensely annoying in that the internals become deprecated by the OS, before the screen component is no longer of use. I'm sure Apple could make the Mac Mini tiny and update the Cinema Displays (with a non-absurd price) but that would prioritise the interests of the user, and the environment, over their bottom-line.
Money is the obvious answer, though not totally for the reason Scruff's saying. Soldering the ram directly to the motherboard saves Apple a tiny bit on production costs. Since this is a cheaper machine (for them), it's a way for them to cut costs.
Except they won't be insulted because they'll be oblivious to the notion and idea of expansion.
If for example my parents, who are completely and technologically inept, we're to buy this iMac, they would never even begin to think about upgrading it. Why exactly would they be insulted by it? This is the entire reason why they now enjoy a completely iOS-centric life style (no PCs). It's simple and it's safe. And all they would ever have to do is click "Upgrade" when a new OS update is out.
On the contrary, I think they would feel even more comfortable knowing that they would never have to alter or configure the hardware for the entire lifespan of the machine.
Exactly this. This is obvious that complainers are power users (whatever that is) or at least they believe they are. While the machine is clearly targeted at offices, education and people like my grandma. Actually, I will probably buy some for our student computer lab, the cost savings are significant and the machines will be more then enough for the next 3 or more years.
Cheaper manufacturing costs, simpler assembly, increased reliability.
But the 5% uncertainty in your answer turns out to be correct.
The i5-4260U chip can support up to 16GB of RAM.
-JimJ
He's back! I didn't know if you were at the South Pole or a North Korean prison camp.
Bit of column A, bit of column B. Mostly, they had me digging up old septic tanks at various old folks homes.
...compared to that, I kinda preferred North Korea.
Only losers who aren't capable of program their videocassettes don't like upgrades. Upgrading a Mac is like cheating Apple's business model. I'm not a stockholder, I'm a user and I LOVE UPGRADEABLE MACS.
Yep. I suspect there are very few of even the most ardent Apple fanboys who aren't sick to the back teeth of their RAM pricing.
Man, I was reviewing the iMac specs, and the Monitor is also not upgradable!! What computer savvy person would by this device without being able to upgrade the monitor.
(that's sarcasm, for all you in the sarchasm)
(that's sarcasm, for all you in the sarchasm)