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Memory in New $1099 iMac is Soldered and Not Upgradable

Renzatic said:
Yup. It reaffirms my opinion of Apple pricing. They're super competitive on the high end, but they kinda gouge you on the low.

If they're using an IPS panel over a TN, I could probably justify the price. But...do we even know if it is?
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My mom was inflicted with the "Windows bug" for a while thinking that she needed to buy a Windows computer to get a cheap computer. After a couple of years of problems, I convinced her to get a Mac mini, and it's been happily serving her needs for the past 7 years with zero (ZERO!) maintenance. Just keeps on ticking... and the machine cost her $599.

Apple does NOT gouge on the low end. That's a straight out lie.
 
mainstreetmark said:
Man, I was reviewing the iMac specs, and the Monitor is also not upgradable!! What computer savvy person would by this device without being able to upgrade the monitor.

(that's sarcasm, for all you in the sarchasm)
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I know you're being sarcastic but I really agree "What computer savvy person would by this device without being able to upgrade the monitor."
 
Renzatic said:
You know how long it takes to install RAM? Like 10 seconds. Maybe as long as 40 seconds if you take removing the side of the case and putting it back on into account. It's a very small amount of effort for a potentially huge boost in performance (if you need it).

While I'm not saying this machine absolutely has to have upgradeable RAM (especially not this one), I'm finding your argument pretty weak.
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That's only one small part of upgrading.

There's also the part where you waste time trying to find parts, ordering them, actually thinking about upgrading, etc..

iMac's are set-it-and-forget-it web browsers and Office app devices. People don't do anything more with them.

Really, the 1GB in an iPad is enough for these. 8GB is way overkill.
 
BasicGreatGuy said:
In my opinion, the price is way too high given the specs and the inability to build to order.

I am a big Apple fan. But, I wouldn't buy it.
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Damn, people are getting so cheap these days! $1099 for a full computer built to the high Apple standards with years and years of future-proofing built in with free OS upgrades... yah.... price is way too high. :rolleyes:
 
coolfactor said:
My mom was inflicted with the "Windows bug" for a while thinking that she needed to buy a Windows computer to get a cheap computer. After a couple of years of problems, I convinced her to get a Mac mini, and it's been happily serving her needs for the past 7 years with zero (ZERO!) maintenance. Just keeps on ticking... and the machine cost her $599.

Apple does NOT gouge on the low end. That's a straight out lie.
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I agree Mac mini is great but they need to update it.
 
FrozenDarkness said:
A point in comparison, the razer blade 14, which I consider to be a sexy beast of a machine and what I assume to be a good seller even at $1999 for only 128gb of ssd, is also locked into 8gb memory
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Point taken....

I can see a reason like the MBA, your stuck with what you have, but not allowing memory upgrades at purchase...

Seems kind of : "This IS your basic throw away Mac"
 
mozumder said:
That's only one small part of upgrading.

There's also the part where you waste time trying to find parts, ordering them, actually thinking about upgrading, etc..

iMac's are set-it-and-forget-it web browsers and Office app devices. People don't do anything more with them.

Really, the 1GB in an iPad is enough for these. 8GB is way overkill.
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1GB in the iPad isn't enough either.
 
coolfactor said:
My mom was inflicted with the "Windows bug" for a while thinking that she needed to buy a Windows computer to get a cheap computer. After a couple of years of problems, I convinced her to get a Mac mini, and it's been happily serving her needs for the past 7 years with zero (ZERO!) maintenance. Just keeps on ticking... and the machine cost her $599.

Apple does NOT gouge on the low end. That's a straight out lie.
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I'll give you a definite maybe it all depends on that. If you're buying a computer that'll do the basic mom 'n pop stuff with flying colors, and last you forever and a day, then the Mac Minis aren't too badly priced. While you're overpaying for the hardware, you're making it up in longevity.

But I look at computers based on what I need, and I can't help but see the Mac Mini as a slow computer 2 years out of date still selling at the same price it did when it was fresh and new. $600 for it is too, too much.
 
As a professional I would never get an iMac anymore. Now I think the iMac line is targeted just for families that would like a desktop computer and a $1k web browsing, email machine.
 
mozumder said:
That's only one small part of upgrading.

There's also the part where you waste time trying to find parts, ordering them, actually thinking about upgrading, etc..

iMac's are set-it-and-forget-it web browsers and Office app devices. People don't do anything more with them.

Really, the 1GB in an iPad is enough for these. 8GB is way overkill.
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Ordering ram is no more difficult than ordering a new iMac. I mean if you're upgrading your ram in the first place, you already know exactly what you're going for, so it's practically no effort on your part. Hit up Newegg, do a quick search, and 3 minutes later, it's on its way.

And the 1GB in the iPad Air is anemic at best. It really needs 2GB.
 
Sounds like Apple is cutting costs by using solder vs a dedicated removeable memory slot/bay. C'mon Apple.
 
Had a macbook air with soldered ram. Its a pain in the ass not being able to upgrade it.
 
The fine Apple-troll tradition: weep and moan on behalf of OTHER people, when in fact the actual affected people aren't bothered at all :p

I do think it's a downside, because buyers of this machine really only need 2 to 4GB, and it would be nice if they could sell the extra.

But in reality, it won't matter: 99.999999% of these buyers will never dream of opening up any computer for any reason. And Apple's warranty department wouldn't want to deal with the fallout if they did!
 
BasicGreatGuy said:
In my opinion, the price is way too high given the specs and the inability to build to order.

I am a big Apple fan. But, I wouldn't buy it.
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Spot on. More like $899 but I guess they can't price it lower then an iPad for fear of 'showing up' the price of an iPad.

They could have done so much better than this.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
I agree, people will pay it and defend Apple for charging them more. I'm a consumer and for some strange reason, I care more about my wallet than I do about some company's treasure chest.

Good to see you post again!
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Apple RAM is sometimes more expensive than budget suppliers because Apple RAM is premium quality and backed by the extensive AppleCare warranties with world-class support options. People always forget this when trying to do dollar sum comparisons. In reality there is no comparison.

And another reason why it's good to solider the RAM on and not allow consumers to upgrade with shoddy components is it degrades the overall experience when faulty components start causing critical system errors. Who do you think the consumer blames when this happens? Apple of course. But if Apple enforces the user of premium quality components this never happens.
 
They should do this with the top top end model.
with 32Gb, the i7 and 780M and weld it all in knock $500 off the price.

Great machine for CAD workstations.

Better still kick in a 128Gb SSD instead of the 1Tb drive, it's a networks machine after all.

Although I think they should extend standard warranty to 3years on these welded RAM machines.
 
blimey how **** is that, for what reason other than money saving would any computer builder do this..the poor state of Apple thinking never ceases to surpass me nowadays.
 
dumastudetto said:
Apple RAM is sometimes more expensive than budget suppliers because Apple RAM is premium quality and backed by the extensive AppleCare warranties with world-class support options. People always forget this when trying to do dollar sum comparisons. In reality there is no comparison.

And another reason why it's good to solider the RAM on and not allow consumers to upgrade with shoddy components is it degrades the overall experience when faulty components start causing critical system errors. Who do you think the consumer blames when this happens? Apple of course. But if Apple enforces the user of premium quality components this never happens.
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I guess all those Sandisk SSD's in the MBA's that failed were premium quality, as well as all the screens in the MBPr's that had ghosting/IR issues, as well as the home buttons that broke on the iphones. :rolleyes:
 
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