Ok.. I'm talking about the menu bar - not the dock. Menu bar. Not dock. I'm not in full screen mode - I'm not talking about full screen mode. My question: Am I just now noticing that the menu bar disappears when you're working inside an app and the only way to get it back is to leave the app and click on the desktop? If this is true I need a mental eval.. I could have sworn the menu bar was always present (unless in FSM). I'm hoping I'm wrong - I hate not having a menu bar visible full time - can I get it to stay - how? ---------- Crisis averted. I logged out and logged back in - menu bar is back. I have no idea what I did.