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As cool as the current digital instrument clusters are on the European cars, I prefer an actual analog gauge, with a supplemental center LCD screen. Call me old school but I just prefer an actual needle in the actual 3D world, not a 2D approximation of a needle lol.

I disagree, I much prefer digital displays over analogue. We have a Volvo XC60, Range Rover Sport and VW Golf all with digital displays and I find them so much better than analogue dials. I especially prefer a number displayed than vague analogue dials.

I do like tactile buttons though, I think Volvo and Land Rover could focus on either adding more buttons back or giving some sort of haptic response.
 
My 2017 Volkswagen Tiguan has CarPlay as a standard feature (also Android Auto). Tried it on the drive home from the dealer, have not used it since then. Just wasn't impressed. If I could use other apps instead of Apple Maps (like Garmin StreetPilot or Galileo) then I might use it. But the 6" screen in the Tiguan isn't all that great. And a bigger problem is that you can't use CarPlay unless you enable Siri. I hate Siri and it's always turned off.
 
Not sure what the point to wireless CarPlay would be, except for people that only take very short trips; on a multi-hour drive I'd certainly want the phone charging anyway, so might as well have data as well as power going through the wire.

I have wireless carplay and a built-in wireless charging pad in my 2018 X3. I just toss my phone onto the pad to get it charging and the car automatically connects to wireless carplay. Super simple and no need to fumble with any wires.

My bigger issue is how carplay is not as good as the built in idrive
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Wireless Car Play only makes sense for short trips. If your ride is longer than 30 minutes, the battery of your fine thin iPhone will be drained to ZERO.

Not if your car also has a built-in wireless charging pad...
 
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Here is the thing. Even current generation Mercedes "COMAND" is superior to lousy car play. Car Play has such a bad design, the resolution, font size, limited information displayed, Apple Maps, ugh ... it is a useless disaster.

I don't find any of this to be even remotely true. Maybe you should try it on a better head unit. And if you're expecting Apple or anybody else to give you email and a web browser on your infotainment system to use while you drive, you can forget about that. Nobody but nobody is going to promote distracted driving.
 
Being radiated with wireless crap is the last thing I would want in my car ... especially since radiation levels in the closed confines of a vehicle (with bouncing off windows etc) can be a multitude stronger than outside the same space. I hope they have an option to switch if completely off, or just to remove it completely.
 
I think I read somewhere that someone installed the $900 Alpine Wireless CarPlay device in their 1991 Chevette.

Now that car is worth about $350! ;)

MBUX. Since this is Mercedes we're talking about, does this acronym translate as "maximum bucks"?

Funny... and personally pain-pain-painful... but with Apple in the backdrop, that may be an example of pot calling the kettle ;)
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What I find really annoying is wireless android auto only came out last year and Kenwood has six head units equipped with it, without including wireless CarPlay? Why did that happen? Stupid licensing costs by Apple perhaps? Like HomeKit all over again.

Almost everything that seems illogical thorough a consumer's lens will link back to the money. I suspect the fundamentals in your guess is probably exactly the reason.
 
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Here is my issue with Carplay... Apple devices last 3 to 5 years now and Apple makes them obsolete. A car last way more than 10 years easy. My BMW is from 2004... how "Carplay" is going to perform for 14 years if Apple NEVER supports their products for that long?
 
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Being radiated with wireless crap is the last thing I would want in my car ... especially since radiation levels in the closed confines of a vehicle (with bouncing off windows etc) can be a multitude stronger than outside the same space. I hope they have an option to switch if completely off, or just to remove it completely.

Yeah, but it's all non-ionizing radiation. Still an issue for you?
 
As a reservation-holder for the Tesla Model 3 (and a huge Tesla fan in general), I have to say this new Mercedes A-Class hatchback is the first car in the same price range which is seriously making me reconsider pulling the trigger on the Model 3. Definitely an Apples & Oranges comparison, since the Model 3 is fully electric and the Merc A-Class isn't even a hybrid...but the latter is IMO not only sexy, it has an interior that blows away the Tesla.
Well, either way you’ll be enjoying the worst built cars money can buy! Between Tesla’s panel alignment problems and Mercedes... well everything about Mercedes post 90s I wouldn’t touch either manufacturer with a 30 foot pole!
 
Mercedes Benz is working hard to make Android Auto and he applecar thing irrelevant. And they are getting it done. Mercedes' OS is really maturing.
Do you even drive a Mercedes ?I have a 2015 s class and and 2 e class cars before that. The MB interface is HORRIBLE MErcedes is always 5 years behind ford when it comes to infotainment.
 
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For some reason I really dislike CarPlay.

I don't know, my biggest disappointment i you can't have maps open to navigation and then say your passenger can change the music. Nope it will switch to the music app.

I have friends who opted out of built-in navigation in lieu of CarPlay because frankly those cars the "built-in" is just a Garmin in the dash. To mention one thing in high density areas, the maps is always off. My car's built-in nav is never off. It even works underground and in tunnel using car ECU data...
 
As a reservation-holder for the Tesla Model 3 (and a huge Tesla fan in general), I have to say this new Mercedes A-Class hatchback is the first car in the same price range which is seriously making me reconsider pulling the trigger on the Model 3. Definitely an Apples & Oranges comparison, since the Model 3 is fully electric and the Merc A-Class isn't even a hybrid...but the latter is IMO not only sexy, it has an interior that blows away the Tesla.

The A-Class is a FWD MB, i.e. not a real MB. Sure, it has the MB name, and MB price, but they are just suckering people with the entry level moneymaker into thinking that they are getting something akin to the S-Class which they aren't (they aren't even getting a C-Class).
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My 2017 Volkswagen Tiguan has CarPlay as a standard feature (also Android Auto). Tried it on the drive home from the dealer, have not used it since then. Just wasn't impressed. If I could use other apps instead of Apple Maps (like Garmin StreetPilot or Galileo) then I might use it. But the 6" screen in the Tiguan isn't all that great. And a bigger problem is that you can't use CarPlay unless you enable Siri. I hate Siri and it's always turned off.

I have an 8" screen and CarPlay is easy to touch and use. You need to enable Siri so you can use all of the voice commands, including sending text messages.
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Do you even drive a Mercedes ?I have a 2015 s class and and 2 e class cars before that. The MB interface is HORRIBLE MErcedes is always 5 years behind ford when it comes to infotainment.

THIS! I don't understand how people are saying the MB Infotainment system is so great, when people in the car world know it's horrible, and is the worse of the big three German luxury car makers. I will say that the MB system is better than the disaster Lexus is using, but it looks like Toyota finally woke up and is trying to fix it.
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Here is my issue with Carplay... Apple devices last 3 to 5 years now and Apple makes them obsolete. A car last way more than 10 years easy. My BMW is from 2004... how "Carplay" is going to perform for 14 years if Apple NEVER supports their products for that long?

But CarPlay is software running on your phone being displayed on the cars screen...? Just look at how when Apple Maps were updated from iOS 10 to iOS 11, and the interfaced changed for the better / looked different on CarPlay, because Apple updated it. Apple will keep on updating the software, which will keep on displaying on the screen.

As you upgrade your iPhone to a newer one, CarPlay will just run off of your phone and display that iteration on your cars screen, that's it. The same can't be said for BMW's built in Nav system from 2004 which will eventually no longer be supported by or updated by BMW.
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For some reason I really dislike CarPlay.

I don't know, my biggest disappointment i you can't have maps open to navigation and then say your passenger can change the music. Nope it will switch to the music app.

What do you mean? Are you trying to control music from your phone while still trying to have CarPlay display Apple Maps on the car screen?
 
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Not sure what the point to wireless CarPlay would be, except for people that only take very short trips; on a multi-hour drive I'd certainly want the phone charging anyway, so might as well have data as well as power going through the wire.
That's the thing. Bluetooth has long been a necessity for me because I am rarely in my car for longer than 20-30 mins at a time (commuting is for suckers). So while wired CarPlay is still in a different dimension compared to the stock OS's from automakers, the wireless version is really the iteration I care about.
 
MBUX. Since this is Mercedes we're talking about, does this acronym translate as "maximum bucks"?

Almost ;) As far as I know: Mercedes Benz User Experience.
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From the car manufacturer’s perspective an old fashioned gauge is too reliable, and if it broke down they can’t charge much for the rather basic parts. An LCD screen on the other hand...
The flip side is some iterations you can choose the layout.
[doublepost=1525461656][/doublepost]What I find really annoying is wireless android auto only came out last year and Kenwood has six head units equipped with it, without including wireless CarPlay? Why did that happen? Stupid licensing costs by Apple perhaps? Like HomeKit all over again.

There are no licensing costs to CarPlay. What I could imagine is that integrating Android Auto could be simpler, since the telephony part is still standard BTHF, while (wireless) CarPlay transports everything over WiFi.
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Being radiated with wireless crap is the last thing I would want in my car ... especially since radiation levels in the closed confines of a vehicle (with bouncing off windows etc) can be a multitude stronger than outside the same space. I hope they have an option to switch if completely off, or just to remove it completely.
It's good (and to me also important) to keep possible downsides of technology in mind, but I don't have the feeling that anyone really cares, let alone questioning if there could be a potential consequence at all.
 
A dash (or vent) mounted iphone connected to the car via bluetooth is still the way to go. Carplay is still too limited. Additionally, Waze is the superior app for the car and is still unsupported.
 
Here is my issue with Carplay... Apple devices last 3 to 5 years now and Apple makes them obsolete. A car last way more than 10 years easy. My BMW is from 2004... how "Carplay" is going to perform for 14 years if Apple NEVER supports their products for that long?

What's the issue? When the hardware is no longer able to run the software, you throw it away and buy new hardware. Here, you throw the Mercedes away and buy a new Mercedes to keep up with the software. Who cares about money or consumer value? Spend as often as possible to keep up with when corporations want new money. There's records to be set... and those can't be set if people don't buy new over and over, faster and faster.

Sheesh! Some people seem to think that if the whole runs perfectly well in spite of software update obsolescence, they should be able to keep using it... as if the software should remain compatible with perfectly good hardware or something. :rolleyes:

;)
 
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Here is my issue with Carplay... Apple devices last 3 to 5 years now and Apple makes them obsolete. A car last way more than 10 years easy. My BMW is from 2004... how "Carplay" is going to perform for 14 years if Apple NEVER supports their products for that long?

I installed an Alpine ILX-007 into my wife's car in December 2014, at the time she was running iOS8 and an iPhone 6. 3 years later everything still works after 3 iOS upgrades and an iPhone X.

CarPlay is just a display and control protocol, everything that you see on the screen is generated by the iPhone itself - the car doesn't care what iOS or phone you have. For example, I have a 10 year old JVC stereo in my S2000 with iPod control that still works with my iPhone X and iOS11 because its is a protocol that apple still supports. As Apple has added things like radio and podcasts, they just show up on the menu. I don't see any reason why Apple would stop supporting either.

And even if they did, it doesn't make the car useless, it just makes that one feature not work. Losing CarPlay doesn't mean that your factory radio or navigation or bluetooth handsfree stops working.
 
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What's the issue? When the hardware is no longer able to run the software, you throw it away and buy new hardware. Here, you throw the Mercedes away and buy a new Mercedes to keep up with the software. Who cares about money or consumer value? Spend as often as possible to keep up with when corporations want new money. There's records to be set... and those can't be set if people don't buy new over and over, faster and faster.

Sheesh! Some people seem to think that if the whole runs perfectly well in spite of software update obsolescence, they should be able to keep using it... as if the software should remain compatible with perfectly good hardware or something. :rolleyes:

;)

Plus we should also want Mercedes to have huge profits so we can brag about it. We can say, Tesla sells more cars but Mercedes makes the most profit.
 
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