[Merged] No Flash?

wolfpackfan

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You know, I don't know that I've heard if folks think the Tablet browser will have Flash? It seems to me that without Flash it's use will be severely restricted. With it being based on iPhone OS though, I'm wondering if Flash would be included. Anyone else have this concern?
 

Yixian

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Support for .flv is all that's needed really. Even on my MBP I pretty much close a webpage as soon as I see it's built with a flash interface, but .flv is hard to avoid.
 

t0mat0

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Apple (and Android) have done a great job getting companies to realise not having a Flash alternative site is an annoyance and a silly thing.
Youtube? HTML5 demo. Vimeo too.
I could see it shipping with a Flash switch in settings. (like a click2flash setting - where you could activate Flash if wanted for a specific part of a website).
Will they say - well, Adobe doesn't have anything good enough for the Tablet?

Apple could give a big blow to Adobe by not supporting it initially.
 

Cynicalone

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Not a chance if it runs the iPhone OS.

Adobe had flash up and running on the iPhone, but Apple is not interested in it. Really you don't want it either it would kill the battery life.
 

Jimmyz

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If it doesn't support flash, then that may be a game changer for me. I mean seriously, what is the point of it if it can't support all web pages. It is looking like it will cost 500 with contract and 1000 without contract, and for that price, it's OS should be much closer to OS X instead of iPhone 4.0 (like how Microsoft has Windows 7 starter for netbooks, not something based on Windows Mobile 6.5), have USB ports, firewire and display port, but it looks like none of those will reach the iPad, which makes me think it may be kind of useless. I may still buy one because I have to have to newest gadgets, but I don't know if I will be happy with it.
 

shrimpdesign

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Purely on an interaction level, Flash is designed for keyboard and mouse. So is HTML, but it's an open standard that allows Apple to implement multi-touch on the client end. Apple does not trust Adobe to implement multi-touch Flash on any of their devices.
 

t0mat0

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John Gruber of daringfireball has a GREAT article on it

Basically saying there are two polarised views on this. And one is in for a surprise tomorrow.

I don't think Flash will be there from Reading this piece.

http://daringfireball.net/2010/01/apple_adobe_flash

Apple isn’t trying to replace Flash with its own proprietary thing. They’re replacing it with H.264 and HTML5. This is good for everyone but Adobe.

And yes, I know Flash does much more than just play video. But that’s the main thing everyone is talking about when they talk about Flash not working on the iPhone — video. And when you talk about others uses for Flash, you’re talking about serving as a software runtime, and whether you like it or not, Apple has a clearly stated opposition to third-party software runtimes for iPhone OS, and that policy seems to be working out pretty well for them.
 

cottonjenn

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I was hoping some day the iPhone and the iPod Touch would eventually support flash. Guess that's not going to happen.
 

prospereagle92

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I'm hoping its the fact that they just haven't taken the time to work with adobe to get it because it has to have the hardware to support it.
 

doug in albq

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sorry mac folks flash is still huge and not going anywhere for years, if ever.

Flash Catalyst will make the format even more popular.

ever go to sites like Ebay, UPS, USPS, Home Depot, and millions of others that use flash elements on their websites....?

FAIL

still think this is Adobe's way of slamming Jobs personally.......
 

lukefinch

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sorry mac folks flash is still huge and not going anywhere for years, if ever.

Flash Catalyst will make the format even more popular.

ever go to sites like Ebay, UPS, USPS, Home Depot, and millions of others that use flash elements on their websites....?

FAIL

still think this is Adobe's way of slamming Jobs personally.......
I completely agree!
 

Cinemagic

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No Flash - I no buy.

I have a Macbook Pro. I love it. I web surf frequently, like most here and a great many sites have flash content.

I also have an iPhone - no flash. Some sites are specifically designed for the iPhone and will automatically re-direct you to their non-flash "watered down" version.

While Apple is pushing HTML5, let's face it, flash is currently intrenched into the Internet. Even in his presentation, Steve goes to a site that shows flash content that the iPad cannot display. If he was going to do some web surfing, you'd think he'd keep away from those sites, unless he purposefully wanted to let everyone know that it's a no-flash device.

I'd buy an iPad if it was truely a web browsing device. But it's appears that it's not. If it truely does not play flash, then it's simply a large iPhone when it comes to web browsing. It is NOT the Apple experience that Steve thinks it is - or that it should be. Hopefully, there will be flash enabled, but then I remember saying the same thing about the iPhone. Adobe has done its part. They have Flash Lite and mobile versions of flash for every mobile operating system - except Apple and that's only because Steve doesn't want flash.