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How come no one ever finds Jesus before they get caught doing something criminal?

What a jerk and a moron he is imo. Especially since he has come out about "finding" Jesus :confused:

Why is this whole I’ve-found-Jesus detail trotted out in news reports? People who’ve made a big public fuss about “finding Jesus” are no less likely to commit crimes than people who are incapable of locating this Jesus person.

:mad:
 
What a jerk and a moron he is imo. Especially since he has come out about "finding" Jesus :confused:

Why is this whole I’ve-found-Jesus detail trotted out in news reports? People who’ve made a big public fuss about “finding Jesus” are no less likely to commit crimes than people who are incapable of locating this Jesus person.

:mad:
Because most of society is conditioned to respect the religion/morality link, so as a defence it's quite effective at winning people over. Including judges apparently.
 
Because most of society is conditioned to respect the religion/morality link, so as a defence it's quite effective at winning people over. Including judges apparently.

just makes me want to be a judge! i would throw the book at him - and definitely no suspended or delayed sentence either. that stuff really makes me mad.

just put him in the fighting pit with some dogs and be done with it
 
I was reading an op/ed piece by a sports commentor on the subway today. He posited that Michael Vick's NFL career -- especially in the face of an apology and "finding God" -- will resume upon his release.
 
It is a horrible thing to do. If he is found guilty he should be punished.
I think that he will be found guilty & I think his football career is done.
 
What a jerk and a moron he is imo. Especially since he has come out about "finding" Jesus :confused:

Why is this whole I’ve-found-Jesus detail trotted out in news reports? People who’ve made a big public fuss about “finding Jesus” are no less likely to commit crimes than people who are incapable of locating this Jesus person.

:mad:

didn't Deion Sanders do something like that? it worked for him, though i don't recall people hating him.

any new word on the charges brought to him by the state?
 
i don't agree with what he did, but i think he's served the time according to what he was served with. Again, I'm not justifying what he did.

BUT and this is a big BUT, the NFL unfortunately doesn't discriminate against criminals harshly enough.

If we were to look at this at a : "hey, you broke the law, you aren't playing" point of view which applied to ANY player breaking the law, then I don't believe he should be playing.

BUT, Leonard Little is a perfect example of that ideology not existing.

He killed a MOTHER while drunk driving!!! He played after that! He got away with it! AND, he continued to play after ANOTHER drunk driving charge a few years ago. If that's not the ultimate head-turning-in-the-other direction from the NFL, I don't know what is. Granted, that was a different commissioner at the time, but that is unacceptable.

So, yes, in this situation, what Vick did was wrong, but not as bad as some others.

I don't agree with the "I found God" stuff either. Everyone says it and as someone else said, that phrase works on ppl.

Let's just hope he does right about it, learns and maybe uses the millions he's going to make, to help others.

Positive stuff can happen in life from negative situations.
 
BUT, Leonard Little is a perfect example of that ideology not existing.

He killed a MOTHER while drunk driving!!! He played after that! He got away with it! AND, he continued to play after ANOTHER drunk driving charge a few years ago. If that's not the ultimate head-turning-in-the-other direction from the NFL, I don't know what is. Granted, that was a different commissioner at the time, but that is unacceptable.

I live in St. Louis and was around for the whole Leonard Little saga, and let me just say that man is a worthless piece of **** and a waste of human flesh and should be rotting in a jail cell right now spending his days with his horny cellmate Bubba.

Michael Vick isn't much better. I think all sports should have a rule where if you're convicted of a felony, you're out for life.
 
I live in St. Louis and was around for the whole Leonard Little saga, and let me just say that man is a worthless piece of **** and a waste of human flesh and should be rotting in a jail cell right now spending his days with his horny cellmate Bubba.

Michael Vick isn't much better. I think all sports should have a rule where if you're convicted of a felony, you're out for life.

your last line is bang on: one felony, you're privilege is gonzo.
 
I live in St. Louis and was around for the whole Leonard Little saga, and let me just say that man is a worthless piece of **** and a waste of human flesh and should be rotting in a jail cell right now spending his days with his horny cellmate Bubba.

Michael Vick isn't much better. I think all sports should have a rule where if you're convicted of a felony, you're out for life.
Couldnt agree more.
 
i don't agree with what he did, but i think he's served the time according to what he was served with. Again, I'm not justifying what he did.

BUT and this is a big BUT, the NFL unfortunately doesn't discriminate against criminals harshly enough.

If we were to look at this at a : "hey, you broke the law, you aren't playing" point of view which applied to ANY player breaking the law, then I don't believe he should be playing.

BUT, Leonard Little is a perfect example of that ideology not existing.

He killed a MOTHER while drunk driving!!! He played after that! He got away with it! AND, he continued to play after ANOTHER drunk driving charge a few years ago. If that's not the ultimate head-turning-in-the-other direction from the NFL, I don't know what is. Granted, that was a different commissioner at the time, but that is unacceptable.

So, yes, in this situation, what Vick did was wrong, but not as bad as some others.

I don't agree with the "I found God" stuff either. Everyone says it and as someone else said, that phrase works on ppl.

Let's just hope he does right about it, learns and maybe uses the millions he's going to make, to help others.

Positive stuff can happen in life from negative situations.

Agreed, if Donte Stallworth is still eligible to play, then Vick should be too.
 
The NFL, like all top sports leagues, is BIG money. They can't afford to let a little felony here and there stop the gravy train.

Oh, and that goes for cheating, performance-enhancing drugs, racism, and unethical business practices was well.

Shoot, I must have forgotten to remove my cynical hat today. :rolleyes::D
 
oh vick, you crossed the line

I cant believe he got back into the NFL... He was my favorite player by far.. but this is... I cant wear his jersey after this! I love animals, i love dogs and the thought of someone killing dogs that don't know any better is just wrong and to bad he's in debt millions of dollars... before his accounts went into the negative they were well into the positive. He choose to make those choices and now they are giving him a second chance... Isn't getting into college and develop his talent to become a famous football player his first chance?
 
He choose to make those choices and now they are giving him a second chance... Isn't getting into college and develop his talent to become a famous football player his first chance?

I would think that getting into college and developing his talent is an accomplishment, not a chance.

While I don't agree with his actions, I think Vick has paid his debt to society. He was sentenced, served his time, apologized and is trying to move on with his life.

Should society insist that he get the death penalty or life in prison? Does that punishment fit the crime? I think this sends a message to kids that you commit a crime and you will do time unlike former NBA player Jayson Williams who served no jailtime for a far more heinous act.
 
I agree as well. I'm tired of seeing criminals being role models for our youngsters.

And don't even get me started on rap...

Rap? LOL. You want to see criminal look towards white collar boondoggles like Enron leading right up to the AIG hacks.

It's funny that people spend an inordinate amount of time demonizing entertainers. Frankly I'm as disgusted with the crime that appears to be embedded in Politics and Big Business.


I cant believe he got back into the NFL... He was my favorite player by far.. but this is... I cant wear his jersey after this! I love animals, i love dogs and the thought of someone killing dogs that don't know any better is just wrong and to bad he's in debt millions of dollars... before his accounts went into the negative they were well into the positive. He choose to make those choices and now they are giving him a second chance... Isn't getting into college and develop his talent to become a famous football player his first chance?

Second chances are good. There are certain crimes you don't get second chances for though. What Vick did was wrong but animal fighting is nothing new...sadly.
 
The NFL is not a joke. The man served his time.

I agree. He has paid his debt by serving like 2 years

Every man deserves to make a living through his trade
I would think that getting into college and developing his talent is an accomplishment, not a chance.

While I don't agree with his actions, I think Vick has paid his debt to society. He was sentenced, served his time, apologized and is trying to move on with his life.

Should society insist that he get the death penalty or life in prison? Does that punishment fit the crime? I think this sends a message to kids that you commit a crime and you will do time unlike former NBA player Jayson Williams who served no jailtime for a far more heinous act.
or Ray Lewis

I have found it disturbing how people get more upset over dogs getting killed than murders
 
He did his time and could use a job & I'm pretty sure dog fighting is out for the guy. He lost enough and only has so many years left to make a living so IMHO, let him play. He's not a role model nor either are most of the other players of nearly all professional sports.
 
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