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All right. I now know the release date for OS X 10.5 'leapord' ;)

January 30, 2007, 10 minutes after Vista hits the shelves.
 
I wouldn't mind, but five years for what exactly?

Vista does nothing on my computer that XP didn't. I mean, sure it looks much nicer, but seriously, that's it. Bit of a letdown for five years!
 
Five years, and they still use the registry. My prediction: This is the end for Microsoft. After WGA screws up legitimate consumers, people will be fed up enough to switch to Mac. Unless MS is secretly working on a new code base, they are dead.
 
I dont know.....

Every-time you do something it puts that annoying box on the screen asking for your password to continue... They got that idea from OS X, but the enhancement is that it dims the screen so you cant see what you are doing.

I have the Vista backgrounds on my Mac ;)
 
100,000 viruses and no sign of effective security was the end of Windows, IMO. The OS may continue to exist (and even maintain high marketshare) but it will always be dead to me.
 
Do you know - I was on a website for my uni (in vista) trying to download the lecture notes for the day and it uses a built in PowerPoint type plug in. Now, bear in mind it just opens on my mac - in vista?

Not only did I have to install Active X control (Whatever that is) I had no less that 17 prompts to "continue" and 17 "Are you sure you can trust this source" blah blah.

You think I'm exaggerating. I'm not. It was probably MORE. You wait.

Vista is hell on a stick to do the most simple things. You want to open control panel? Woah! Warning! Nightmare :mad:
 
Windows is stagnating and it has been since windows 2000. Aside from Direct X 10, Vista offers nothing substantially new and actually decreases functionality vs. XP Home or XP Pro for their lower tier versions. I think spicyapple's right in predicting this as the beginning of the end of the windows dominance. Palm stagnated almost a decade ago with their pda and now they're just a tiny niche player in a shrinking market. MS is going down the same road.
 
"Blackcomb", originally scheduled for release in 2003 (then moved to 2005 with "Longhorn"/Vista in the interim), is based on an entirely new code base.

Isn't it always?

It's still odd how those OS/2 error messages showed up in early versions of Windows NT.

At least, they've got something new to market shortly. You'd think that they would be embarrassed enough to get things done properly.
 
Do you know - I was on a website for my uni (in vista) trying to download the lecture notes for the day and it uses a built in PowerPoint type plug in. Now, bear in mind it just opens on my mac - in vista?

Not only did I have to install Active X control (Whatever that is) I had no less that 17 prompts to "continue" and 17 "Are you sure you can trust this source" blah blah.

You think I'm exaggerating. I'm not. It was probably MORE. You wait.

Vista is hell on a stick to do the most simple things. You want to open control panel? Woah! Warning! Nightmare :mad:

Well, they missed putting in the most important warning...

When you turn the machine on it should say

"Do ya' really wanna' do this to yourself?"
 
I have a spare computer to install it on, so I'll probably take it for a spin sometime next week (it's supposed to be on MSDN by then). If the betas are any indication, then I'm not expecting to be impressed :p
 
Well, they missed putting in the most important warning...

When you turn the machine on it should say

"Do ya' really wanna' do this to yourself?"

I'd like to see a $30 discount coupon for Mac OS X on the startup screen. ;)
 
I have to agree the Windows just isn't fun anymore. It's not coming out with features we have never seen before, because we've either seen them with Mac OS X, Linux, or Add-on software to Windows XP. I haven't got any ideas what the next version is going to be like. Oh wait, maybe a new filesystem! YAY! Excitement for all two seconds. :rolleyes:
 
All right. I now know the release date for OS X 10.5 'leapord' ;)

January 30, 2007, 10 minutes after Vista hits the shelves.

My money says that on January 9th (MWSF) Apple will announce that Leopard will ship within 1 month.
 
I have a spare computer to install it on, so I'll probably take it for a spin sometime next week (it's supposed to be on MSDN by then). If the betas are any indication, then I'm not expecting to be impressed :p

OOOOO I have an MSDN license too, does this mean that come November the 30th a full non time limted verion will be available to MSDN subscribers?
 
"Vista boasts improved graphics, more effective tools for finding documents, pictures and other items on personal computers, and a new Internet browser, among other changes."

Wow. It sounds amazing!
 
Five years, and they still use the registry. My prediction: This is the end for Microsoft. After WGA screws up legitimate consumers, people will be fed up enough to switch to Mac. Unless MS is secretly working on a new code base, they are dead.

I've heard this as much as I've heard that Apple is dead from small market share and Intel is dead because of x86. Microsoft is going nowhere.
 
I dont know.....

Every-time you do something it puts that annoying box on the screen asking for your password to continue... They got that idea from OS X, but the enhancement is that it dims the screen so you cant see what you are doing.

I have the Vista backgrounds on my Mac ;)

A majority aren't going to switch to Mac as long as the base price is double a regular dell computer. Even if it is worth it. The fact is if you want huge OSX %, you need to license out the software. If you want more hardware sale, you need to NOT license out the software. Cause no one would put up with the expense, opacity, and long update times with Apple if it wasnt for OS X.
 
All right. I now know the release date for OS X 10.5 'leapord' ;)

January 30, 2007, 10 minutes after Vista hits the shelves.

When I saw the first link, the above was my exact thought too.

It'll be quite funny if they one up the Zune (with a 6g iPod) and then one up Vista with Leopard.
 
"Vista boasts improved graphics, more effective tools for finding documents, pictures and other items on personal computers, and a new Internet browser, among other changes."

Wow. It sounds amazing!

I wonder if the "other changes" include incorporating even more creative ways for hackers to remotely install spyware and malware through the new Internet browser without your knowledge. I'm sure that Windows will prompt you for passwords and confirmations up the yazoo when you have the damned installation disk in hand, but not a peep when someone remotely installs a keylogger or downloader.
 
OOOOO I have an MSDN license too, does this mean that come November the 30th a full non time limted verion will be available to MSDN subscribers?

your MSDN subscription page tells you that it'll be available, along with Office 2007, within 7 days of RTM. so by the end of next week we'll have the links to download Vista and Office 2007. no need to wait for the 30th for MSDN people.
 
OOOOO I have an MSDN license too, does this mean that come November the 30th a full non time limted verion will be available to MSDN subscribers?

As mentioned in the post above, it should be on MSDN some time next week. It's a full retail copy, but with a special product key that allows installation on up to 10 computers.
 
So when will see XP start to disappear? I need to buy XP Home to run on parallels. I am not paying 200+ for SuberDuper Ultimate Vista edition.
 
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