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Microsoft Announces Intel Atom-Based Surface 3 With Windows 8.1 for $499
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Did I comment about gaming in any way? The GPU's in the nMP are already out dated.
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...I never defrag.
Just for the giggles of it on my work desktop. (Windows 7, 7200RPM, 4gb ram, you know, standard run of the mill). never ran defrag. NTFS filesystem.
Yes, I have. Many of them show the Apple logo, implying that Mac owners need their services -- even though they don't, just like those running Win 8 don't. (I can't speak for 7 because my next oldest machine is Vista.)
But I thought Windows machines' performance was so bad that it would be obvious that those services would be necessary. So that's not actually the case?
The same could be said of Macs. Like the commercials you mentioned, there are also lots of antivirus products for Macs.
I stopped buying antivirus software for my Windows machines when Microsoft Security Essentials came out. I've never had a virus.
tell me one app or professional app that can run smooth on the dual D700 !
out dated for me these days means that your or any app/work cannot be done in perfect conditions with that specs
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LOL, right....
Apple shows happy pics about how great it is to use navigation maps on the base iPad.
You buy it, take it home, the maps work.
Take on a trip and you find out Apple skimped on a $2 GPS chip, so no happy navigation for you.
I've had 7 iPads and my two current ones are the last iPads I am likely to own. Overpriced and too limited compared to the competition nowadays.
Yeah. Fragmentation, much like the bloated registry myth, are one of those things those who don't know what they're talking about keep going on and on about because they really want to hate something for no apparent reason.
I don't understand why you cannot comprehend the possibility that someone does not want OSX on anything.
There's a huge gulf between "I use my computer mostly for the internet and solitaire", and "I need the absolute best, because I'm neck deep in CAD work and realtime fluid dynamic modelling".
It doesn't address a market as large as the iPad, but as you can see from a few posts in this thread, there is a good market for it.
Wasn't that what the Nexus 7 set out to accomplish over 2 years ago? In 2015 we still have a $500 16GB iPad, same as we had back in 2010.
it was a problem during the Fat16, and somewhat Fat32 days. The problem is, with NTFS, and the advanced logic that went into WIndows post XP, it was mostly remedied.
Moving along to exFAT and modern IC based storage, fragmentation argument is completely moot. fragmentation of data on a circuit is completely irrelevant, and poses zero impact in any measurable way. in fact, some fragmentation can aid performance as it allows data be spread amongst the chips allowing for each chips full bandwith to be leveraged.
anyone who trots out the "Fragmentation" of data argument in 2015 is basing their knowledge on 10+ year old knowledge.
What business are you in? I can't do anything in my business (3D medical modeling) from an iPad that generates revenue.
The most I can do from an iPad for my business is answer e-mail and that gets old quickly without a physical keyboard. I did it for the first few weeks I had the iPad but I quickly realized it was more frustrating than it was helpful. I bought a bluetooth keyboard for the iPad; but really, if I'm going to go to the trouble of using the iPad with the bluetooth keyboard, why not just use my MacBook Pro? So, the iPad mainly gets used now for streaming Netflix...
How about semi-pro users which many people fall into? How about all the Apple users who have posted already that are impressed by this offering and considering picking one up? I know Apple is good at brainwashing their sheep, but I didn't think they were so good that they've convinced some people that anything that isn't an iPad or MacBook is either too much or not enough. There are those that think the iPad which is little more than a giant iPhone that doesn't make calls isn't nearly as productive as it could potentially be. Surface 3 fits that void quite well... But I guess some people want to pretend that void doesn't exist in Apple's product lineup.
I don't think so, because this much more powerful, and flexible then the iPad and its running a full desktop OS.
Non existent app ecosystem so it sucks as a tablet and has an intel atom so it sucks as a laptop. $499 for a crappy intel atom, Doesn't include $140 keyboard cover, or $50 stylus, two of it's biggest advertised features, are premium extras? And then you have to be tortured with hideous windows 8?
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If you don't like OSX, you can buy a MacBook Pro and run Windows. Or buy a comparable Windows notebook. The "who is it for?" question still stands. Casual users don't need many of the Surface's features, pro users need a "real" notebook.
A Surface Pro type cover weighs 0.58lbs. A 10.8" display has 0.8x the area of a 12.1" assuming the bezel's scale. Thus the most likely weight of the Surface Type cover will be 0.44lbs.
Total weight:
Surface 3 + Cover = 1.81 lbs, or about 10% lighter than the Macbook.
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...I never defrag.
Windows has a built in scheduled task that runs defrag. Open Task Scheduler, dive down into the Microsoft\Windows\Defrag folder and you should see a ScheduledDefrag job.
If you have an SSD, defrag does not run for obvious reasons.
Original iPhone, original iPad, original iPod, original MBA. First version of every model of retina mac product or iOS product. First versions of Intel Macs. All of those were versions that were best avoided.
First version of every major OSX/iOS version should be avoided. First versions of new software like Final Cut X, the current gimped iWorks, Photos. All of those should have been avoided.
Not to mention all the first versions that never even had a second version because they were so bad.
So you really feel better about buying apple version 1.0 than MC version 1.0?
Has there been any product Apple ever got right on version 1?
He is doing something wrong or his company is. I have 4GB on 8.1 and can run two copies of World of Warcraft at the same time while my plex server is transcoding for multiple users. I can have who knows how many tabs open in Chrome while playing any game I want or streaming anything or doing pretty much anything. intel q6600 CPU which is god awful old at this point. I find most people that complain about windows are complaining about ****** Vista PC's or are using XP still or any of those were there last experiences.
And to person the talking about defragging?? Seriously? I haven't defragged my PC in a decade.. A DECADE!! I have 5 HDD and an SSD in my PC. A DECADE!!!!
And I am going to third the HDD/SSD thing. IT WAS YOUR HARD DRIVE ALL ALONG. Oh my goodness when I moved to an SSD it was like I went to the future and bought a PC there and brought it back with me. Insane difference