Will this lead to better/cheaper iPads?
Time for Apple to up its game.
If for nothing else but this.
I must admit, I am tempted to get a surface. At this price, seems decent enough to do day-to-day tasks.
Will this lead to better/cheaper iPads?
Time for Apple to up its game.
It could have been as simple as MS introduced a product the market wasn't ready for yet. The technology and market are in a better place now.
So what do you think Apple could do to: "This is why I believe if Apple did something similar, it can potentially disrupt this market again." ?
You are totally right, Microsoft really never got the memo on mobile devices, and that they are NOT the same thing as desktop computers. There is a reason why Macs run OS X and the iPad and iPhone run iOS, Macs and mobile devices are fundamentally different animals. Yes, the two OSs share the same Darwin core, but they are used in different ways (touch for iOS, mouse and keyboard for OS X), and so Apple has developed them along distinct paths.
Nice summary, but it couldn't be emphasized enough what FULL Windows really means (even in Tablet Mode) e.g. Multiple User Accounts, Access to Filesystem, Split screen Option, True Multitasking, Ad Blockers, Pen Support etc. Oh you noticed it?! This sounds a lot like the iOS 9 Wishlist Thread. And on top you get hardware ports. I hope Apple manages to bring some of this notebook functionality to their iPads.
$499 is a good price.
Is there a flavour of Linux I could pave this with that would support the touch screen?
This interests me but when you add on the price of the typecover, I'm better off buying a traditional laptop computer. I know it's asking for too much but if they included the typecover for $599, I would buy one. I'm looking for a semi-cheap laptop at the moment and I think I'll just have to get an entry level MacBook Air.
Right. Let's forget about Azure, the Dynamics line of business products that are CONSTANTLY evolving to meet business needs (with cloud/hosted infrastructure options, web apps, etc.), the fact that the Surface -- while being an expected evolution of the "tablet", began as one of a kind (similar copies exist)...
You can't even formulate a valid argument... "...they won't give up on windows and alter it in ways it needs to be."
...so which is it? Should they "give up" on it (in your opinion)? ...or does it need "altered"? You may not like it, but that doesn't mean it's bad or needs fixing.
Finally, the one point you DO seem to get across about 64 gig and windows updates sounds a LOT like Apple's issue of needing to have gigs free in order to upgrade iOS on iPhone (iOS continues to get larger and Apple keeps the 16GB entry-model). Call it "planned obsolescence" if you'd like but every piece of technology has a caveat of some kind...
This is a very seemingly good product from a company that everyone around here loves to hate. It just blows my mind how negative and hateful some people can actually get about something so trivial. But then again, not everyone "gets it".
Touch screen is just another input device so that's not an issue with Linux. The bigger question is will MS allow you to boot other operating systems.
This is what I just saw on a reviewer from the Verge... looks like they have a review unit... here's his comments on performance.
People complained about how heavy the iPad 4 was. Once Surface gets down below 1 pound (maybe with the Surface 5) it will be a lot more comfortable to use.
This is essentially a retina display, it is 213 PPI, retina iPad is 264 PPI, not really that noticeable of a difference, as this screen is larger so you would have it further from your face than an iPad. I agree on the RAM though, but for $100 more you double the RAM and storage...which for a 128GB iPad you are already paying $699, $100 more.
At $500, this thing has the potential to really hurt the iPad and Mac sales to students. It can use a surface pen to have accurate handwriting/drawing for notes, has an awesome keyboard cover (Considerably worse than any mac keyboard/trackpad, but way better compared to everything for the iPad)
If they offer student pricing on this ($500 with keyboard cover would be ideal) they will have a really good shot at taking the college student market from Apple, which is a huge part of their business.
The user experience is horrible, unless you think users should be defragging and buying services to keep their PC running clean.
except for the 2gb comment, which is really not true with Windows, I agree.The RAM is too small at 2GB, so you need to buy the $599 version and you need to buy the $130 cover. So we are talking about an Atom powered PC for $729. It is light, has nice build quality and dual functions as laptop and tablet. It will certain sell. But $999 gets you a Macbook Air which is considerably more powerful. If I were a student I'd be concerned about the typing and trackpad experience and I'd probably go with the real laptop. But I can see folks going for this.
But forget the $499 price. No one should buy one of these things without the keyboard and no one should try to run Windows 8.1 much less 10 on something with 2gb. This is a $729 product and student pricing can get applied starting at that point. I doubt it will be decreased much.
clearly more people care about this, than you care about spelling and grammar.i think this article anded up on the rumors site. who cares
It's easy to look up. It weighs 1.37lbs, or 0.63lbs lighter than the new MacBook.
You're delusional. For the purposes of a tablet at this price point, it's plenty powerful. Millions of people used first gen Atom based Netbooks for everything without complaint, and this processor is dramatically more powerful than those old ones.
Do you mean "because it is a laptop where the keyboard can be removed"? Tablets normally don't have keyboards in the first place.
I'm still not sure who the surface is marketed for. For the casual user, it seems like it simply has too much to it with a full OS, keyboard, and stylus. For the Pro user, it simply can't match the power of a MacBook Pro.
Look, I get it. I understand that you ride around town with a Microsoft Windows flag mounted to the rooftop of your car. Why get upset that I have an opinion that others apparently agreed with? So you didn't understand one of the points I brought up? Let me break it down for you...
Microsoft Windows is basically the same technology from back in the 90's. There have been refinements but we still have the registry, legacy code and emulation for backwards compatibility. The user experience is horrible, unless you think users should be defragging and buying services to keep their PC running clean.
Microsoft needs to adapt by either altering Windows dramatically for specific devices like Apple and letting go of backward compatibility/legacy code or design a new OS from the ground up with a specific focus.
Yes, you beat on your chest shouting out words like Azure and Dynamics but the truth is, most consumers don't know and really don't care. There is an entire generation of folks that are growing up on Apple and Android technology which should scare the hell out of Microsoft. Why do I say that? Because these future leaders will be the ones making decisions on the technology they will implement for their companies. Microsoft could very well be on the outside looking in 15 or so years from now. Adapt or die.
I replaced my iMac with a Dell about nine months ago and haven't felt a need to defrag or buy services to keep it running clean.
Now I'm curious what is in store for the Surface Pro 4.
You are the exception and not the rule. Have you seen all the infomercials on TV wanting your hard earned money monthly to keep your PC running smooth? Also, just because you haven't felt the need doesn't mean it doesn't need to be done. You may not feel the need to buy Antivirus software but that doesn't mean you don't have a virus.